Do you mix/master a beat before rapping over it?

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Basically, I'm at a point now where I'm confident in my abilities to make a solid hip-hop beat. I'm now learning how to mix and master and am confident that I will soon reach a point where I can mix/master effectively. Is mixing/mastering something you do after adding vocals or before?
 

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sometimes i double master tbh, ive been living this loud wars lifestyle , master a beat, then after the vocals i'll most likely master again

just remember one thing, not all songs you hear on radio are mastered
 

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I don't master my beats to be honest. It only makes it sound worse when i do it.

sometimes i double master tbh, ive been living this loud wars lifestyle , master a beat, then after the vocals i'll most likely master again

just remember one thing, not all songs you hear on radio are mastered

Y'all sure about this? :patrice:

I'ma let yall cook tho
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MASTER AFTER VOCALS

Ive been working for universal music for the past few months and ive been on a few sessions, a lot more work goes into mixing and mastering a singing track then a rap track and a lot of these famous singers really cant sing that well naturally.
 
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I don't because I'm spoiled and used to having somebody do it for me.
shyt I record in my house I just leave raw...if it doesn't sound good while I'm making it, it doesn't get uploaded...and it's not "serious music".
All of my serious music....I don't have a hand in any of it other than writing the rhymes and recording....and/or making the beat.
 

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i mix after. u never know how the vocals will drown out certain sounds until they laid.

i usually just make quick beats and work on them after. when i decide which i want on a project then i mix them up nice.

and its a pain in the ass remixing n getting shyt loud n making sure the levels all are correct doing 20 beats at once.

ugh... need to do that asap actually.
 

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Basically, I'm at a point now where I'm confident in my abilities to make a solid hip-hop beat. I'm now learning how to mix and master and am confident that I will soon reach a point where I can mix/master effectively. Is mixing/mastering something you do after adding vocals or before?

yes bro.. you mix and master and then export it in .wav format then rap over it.
 

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I find it weird that when you exported your beat to Wav.
It sounds better with an acapella.

When you put an acapella in your beat Project the acapella ducks from the kicks and snares somehow???
 

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In general, the industry standard practice for commercially released albums is to have the beat fully multi tracked out (ie kick on its own track, snare on its own track, etc..) Along with the vocal fully multi tracked out within the same project, where every element of the song is mixed together inside one project by a mixing engineer. After mixing, typically the multitrack project is summed together (like as one wav file) and that single file is processed by a mastering engineer.

So basically, mastering occurs once on a single file that had previously been properly mixed together.

With that said, now that most of the tools of the trade have made it into the hands of hobbyist and the general public, people tend to do whatever works for them based on the limitations they have on time, money and know how.

So if you like to send the beat out as one file, apply some process you think of as mastering, then record yourself over that, then sum those together and apply a second process you think of as mastering, no one could tell you it's wrong if you like the results you get.

There's no more rules!!!!:blessed:
 
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