Do you consider Goku a hero or villian?

Do you consider Goku a good guy?

  • Hero

    Votes: 13 72.2%
  • Villian

    Votes: 5 27.8%

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ELESDEE616

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Obviously most or us grew up with the American version of Goku who was unquestionably a hero. And in the fight with Frieza stated he was the the hope of the universe, defender of peace and ally to good. Essentially Goku was what Superman was to the Golden generation to Millenials. All the way down to a no kill policy.

Until I saw Dragon Ball and dude caught more bodies than Punisher. Which was weird but I just thought it as because he was a youth. :jbhmm:


Now years later with the release of Kai a Mich closer adaption to the Manga and with the release of Super, Goku true demeanor has been revealed as a buffoon who just loves fighting and according to Toriyama himself has no real affection with his family due to his Saiyan heritage. That's why he doesn't spend time with his wife, doesnt care about Gohan or Goten because they aren't fighters. Goku likely has more feelings for Vegeta :dame:than his "family" because Vegeta makes him stronger.

Ok you say, hes a bit apathetic and fights to get stronger but he has saved the earth many times. However consider that the only reason earth has ever been in danger is because of Gokus own actions.

The only reason he didnt destroy the planet is because he bonked his head. The only reason Raditz came to earth was because he was on earth. The only reason Cell and the androids came along was because Goku slaughtered the Red Ribbon army. Goku would rather humor Vegeta than prevent Buu from being born. Super is just a series of events where Goku endangers multiple universes to fight strong guys.:troll:


This all culminates in Goku releasing the DB version of Hitler and ****spoiler*******.........we see Frieza at the end of DB Super Broly going back to committing genocide and enslaving planets again. Even Vegeta has the moral foresight to scold Goku for this.


Now given all this would you consider Goky and Hero or Villian?


 
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Goku was always a buffoon that loved fighting dub didn't change shyt and no it doesn't make him a villain. He never asked to be a hero and yet he always saved Earth or the universe's ass. None of those things that endagered Earth were really Goku's fault except Buu. Haven't watched much of super though but it seems he is a caricature of himself now.
 

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Trying to imply Goku's a villain in ANY way shape or form is trying way too fukking hard to overanalyze the show and being different for different's sake :mjlol:

One thing that flies over a lot of American fan's heads is that Goku doesn't fit into the archetype of a western hero. He's an East Asian Kung-Fu hero. In other words, he's single-mindedly focused on being the strongest first and foremost but also protects his friends and family.

Goku and the gang don't set out to be superheroes. They have strong morals, but they don't go around trying to fight crime. Gohan's the only guy who fits the western hero archetype.

Acting like Goku doesn't care about his kids is straight up wrong too. When he was fighting Raditz ALL he cared about was saving Gohan and even said he wasn't even excited about fighting that nikka, just terrified. He also was the most supportive of Gohan following his dreams and being a scholar even if he wishes he'd fight more.

As much as we talk about goku being a shyt father, Gohan worships dude like a hero and never had any negative feelings towards him. I think some of y'all think Abridged is canon in that regard:pachaha:. Goku's most significant absences before Cell were 1) Because he was dead for a year AFTER TRYING TO PROTECT GOHAN and 2) when he stayed in space for a year to learn how to control his SSJ transformation because it had his emotions fukked up. In other words, he didn't trust himself around his son. But from what we see, Goku's an affectionate father when he's around and he and Gohan hang out a lot.

nikkas act like Vegeta's a better father just because he was around more :mjlol:. nikka said himself that he didn't even hug his son til he was eight. Y'all grade him on a curve just because he used to be evil.

Now I still think Goku's a reckless idiot and an unfit family man and father, but to say he doesn't care is straight up lies. It's just his idea of family is warped thanks to him liviing a huge chunk of his life completely on his own fending for himself. He can't comprehend people needing him to be around all the time.
 
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Goku is the definition of retard strength
He's that simple retarded kid in school that's always happy but stupid strong
 
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I think Super really went overboard with how dumb they made Goku. In Kai, he’s admittedly less Superman like, but there’s still growth in the series. He had some great moments of insight during the Buu saga.

And I’ll second the commentary on Vegeta getting graded on a curve. Dude was committing genocide for 25+ years, but he gets a pass?
 

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should've been a background character after the cell saga

let the young g's shine but nope the hoe ass nikka is the reason character development & storylines are perpetually in the sandbox

he keeps them folks lazy cause everything always devolves back to derpderpderp power up ahhhahhhahh me goku strong fight strong guy fight derpderpderp

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growing to hate goku is when you know childhood is through real boyziimen progression

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He played dead for seven years while Chi Chi was pregnant with Goten.

"Care about your kids" but don't meet your son until he's seven years old, brehs. :camby:
See, there you folks go again making shyt up to make it sound worse than it actually is.

Goku didn't even know Chi-Chi was pregnant. When he first saw Goten he was shocked.
 

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He played dead for seven years while Chi Chi was pregnant with Goten.

"Care about your kids" but don't meet your son until he's seven years old, brehs. :camby:

No he said that villains usually come to the planet to attack him and so letting the Earth have its peace by leaving was the best option. Guess what? No villains for the entire seven years and the planet was save.
 

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See, there you folks go again making shyt up to make it sound worse than it actually is.

Goku didn't even know Chi-Chi was pregnant. When he first saw Goten he was shocked.

No he said that villains usually come to the planet to attack him and so letting the Earth have its peace by leaving was the best option. Guess what? No villains for the entire seven years and the planet was save.

Bullshyt.

He still had a wife and kid, along with another kid on the way.

He needed to go home and be a family man. :camby:
 

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So being a family man is more important than keeping the Earth safe huh?

He can't do both?

Superman has a son too. You don't see him playing dead to keep Brainiac or Doomsday away. :stopitslime:

And Goku gives no fukks about keeping the earth safe. He did that so he could train for seven years without aging.:camby:
 

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He can't do both?

Superman has a son too. You don't see him playing dead to keep Brainiac or Doomsday away. :stopitslime:

And Goku gives no fukks about keeping the earth safe. He did that so he could train for seven years without aging.:camby:

He did both for years. What did he get in return? Piccolo, Raditz, Saiyans, Androids and Cell. This was Goku experimenting and trying to see if this would work and it did.

He did it train? What is your proof to back it up? You do realize the entire other world arc is filler right? Not canon in the least.
 
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