Do we spend too much time helping the poor and not the middle class?

[valet]

I was at church yesterday and my pastor announced that they scholarship to help out kids who would be the 1st in the family to go to college. Now, of course, I'm all for that. However, it did get me to wondering. Do we spend too much time trying to aid the poor. But those in the middle are basically stuck. Whether it's food, housing, etc. type of aid. Or should it stay the way it is?

 

[88m3]

The middle class are just temporarily impoverished millionaires.

 

[Suicide King]

The middle class are just temporarily impoverished millionaires.

I feel like it was a distraction, they helped the poor hoping they become middle class.

They helped the rich so they won't become middle class.

While the middle class stays middle class. A very nice shell game.

Nothing will change until the middle class starts to focus on policy that benefits them. They can't blame blacks, we are only 12% of the population.

They are the reason college costs are high and wages are low, because they never challenge the status quo.

This is a very good thread, because no matter what, studies show the only thing that eliminates income inequality is higher incomes. Not higher taxes on the rich or government programs.

 

[valet]

I feel like it was a distraction, they helped the poor hoping they become middle class.

They helped the rich so they won't become middle class.

While the middle class stays middle class. A very nice shell game.

Nothing will change until the middle class starts to focus on policy that benefits them. They can't blame blacks, we are only 12% of the population.

They are the reason college costs are high and wages are low, because they never challenge the status quo.

This is a very good thread, because no matter what, studies show the only thing that eliminates income inequality is higher incomes. Not higher taxes on the rich or government programs.

 

[Fillerguy]

Its called trickle up economics, read a book.

 

[OsO]

I was at church yesterday and my pastor announced that they scholarship to help out kids who would be the 1st in the family to go to college. Now, of course, I'm all for that. However, it did get me to wondering. Do we spend too much time trying to aid the poor. But those in the middle are basically stuck. Whether it's food, housing, etc. type of aid. Or should it stay the way it is?

no.

we just spend too much time helping the rich.

 

[Suicide King]

My bad, I'll rep you back.

 

[NZA]

if you look at our political discourse, the only people our politicians publicly claim to serve are the middle class. the poor are almost never mentioned, and when they are, it is often in a negative connotation (the middle class get nice cliches about hard work and pledges for help, the poor get lectures about their culture and habits)

so i would say no, we dont spend enough time helping the poor, at least not in terms of public policy. i cant speak for churches and other private organizations.

 

[Will Ross]

Th middle class is fukked because they want to live like they are rich.

 

[Taadow]

Low key...

a lot of folks think they are middle class, but they're poor.

 

[acri1]

if you look at our political discourse, the only people our politicians publicly claim to serve are the middle class. the poor are almost never mentioned, and when they are, it is often in a negative connotation (the middle class get nice cliches about hard work and pledges for help, the poor get lectures about their culture and habits)

so i would say no, we dont spend enough time helping the poor, at least not in terms of public policy. i cant speak for churches and other private organizations.

Agreed.

One thing that's very interesting about US politics is that, regardless of income, most people consider themselves middle class. People making 175k a year will often say they're "middle-class" in polls, as will people making 22k/yr. If you don't believe me, look at this -

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/08/why-americans-all-believe-they-are-middle-class/278240


Politicians know this, so that's why they only talk about the middle class. There's sort of a stigma against poor people (by right-leaning people) and against rich peole (by left-leaning people) so politicians usually like to play it safe and just talk about the middle class since most people think that's what they are anyway. Plus, a lot of people on the right already feel like the current social safety nets (ie. food stamps, welfare) are already sufficient for the poor. Romney in his campaign said himself "I"m not concerned about the very poor".

 

[Type Username Here]

Th middle class is fukked because they want to live like they are rich.

The middle class aka the bulk of labor is fukked because they don't get what they deserve for their labor.

 

[Taadow]

Agreed.

One thing that's very interesting about US politics is that, regardless of income, most people consider themselves middle class. People making 175k a year will often say they're "middle-class" in polls, as will people making 22k/yr. If you don't believe me, look at this -

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/08/why-americans-all-believe-they-are-middle-class/278240


Politicians know this, so that's why they only talk about the middle class. There's sort of a stigma against poor people (by right-leaning people) and against rich peole (by left-leaning people) so politicians usually like to play it safe and just talk about the middle class since most people think that's what they are anyway. Plus, a lot of people on the right already feel like the current social safety nets (ie. food stamps, welfare) are already sufficient for the poor. Romney in his campaign said himself "I"m not concerned about the very poor".

This is what I was getting at.

 

[DEAD7]

We help in the wrong way, not too much.

 

[TruStyle]

The middle class aka the bulk of labor is fukked because they don't get what they deserve for their labor.

The rich convinced the working class that labor unions are useless and only hurt them.

Yet they be on some straight shyt trying to prevent them.