Do non-AA's black folk feel entitled to criticize the state of AA's?

[Neuromancer]

DISCLAIMER: I AM NOT, IN ANY UNCERTAIN TERMS SAYING NON-AA BLACK FOLK DO FEEL ENTITLED TO CRITICIZE US. I'M ASKING IF THEY DO, AND WHY?

I'd like to understand the thinking so that we can possibly resolve it. If at all.

I'd also like to ask, is it possible to exude or proclaim our cultural differences and experience any sort of true unity? (This goes for AA's too).

 

[Bawon Samedi]

If its not ignorant but constructive then I'll hear their arguments out. That's if they also admit their flaws too. It goes both ways.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

Entitled? No. But at the same time, as many 1st gen Americans will tell you, some of the behaviors that are displayed can be perplexing. Especially without context or knowledge of history. And so therefore, some will feel compelled to speak on it and question it.

 

[intruder]

I wouldn't say ENTITLED. But everybody talks bad about each other to some degree just like they talk bad about eachother withing the same nationalities.

You've heard (for example) Nigerians of different tribes talk shyt about each other. And im sure you hear North Eastern AAs talk shyt about southern AAs. One of the funniest shyts ever is to listen to Southern haitians talk shyt about Norther Haitians.

Some africans talk shyt about AAs. AAs talk shyt about africans and it goes on and on. Many of my AA friends often laugh and joke about (i think) Eddie Murphy's RAW but watching it with my African friends i noticed they were offended by the jokes. Sure we can all write it off to comedy but im sure we can find african jokes about AAs that AAs would find offensive.

 

[Tom Foolery]

Jamaicans are entitled to do what ever we want.

 

[intruder]

And i dont get the part where you say "the STATE of AAs".

What's so bad about the STATE of AAs outside of injustice at the hands of whites? Others may criticize culture and habits but your STATE of things? No. Based on how you look at it AAs are in better position than any other blacks in the world. Have access to more educational resources, healthcare and infrastructure. Only thing you lack in comparison is justice which includes social justice.

The average AA has access to better schools and are better educated than the average black in most predominantly black countries. I'd bet if you were to count how many black people in the US have a degree and compare it to that of any other country it would be a landslide in favor of AAs.

In other predominantly black countries the elite have all the wealth and education but the average middle-class family is in far worse condition than the average middle class AA family. These families may own land that they have inherited throughout generations within the family but what's the point if it's devalued to the point where they'd be willing to sell it all to COME HERE?

 

[Thurgood Thurston III]

The only time I criticize any black group is when it comes to "c00ning". Other than that I actually get real uncomfortable when ANYONE criticizes AAs.

 

[intruder]

The problem is the very insitutions and technologies through which AA's have better standards of living are predominantly owned by white people.

Agreed. But would most AAs trade places with the others, tho?

Like would the average AA making the median income here (say $60K) trade places with someone in Ghana Zimbabwe or other countries making less than 1/3 of that?

 

[intruder]

OK...but realize this, dont expect any Africans to cape when white people make this EXACT argument when telling black people to stop complaining.

Not sure i follow. Who would these africans you speak of cape for?

 

[mr.africa]

we ain't got our own shyt in order,so criticising someone else would be foolish,but like @Diasporan Royalty said, i'll always listen to constructive criticism.
that is just me though.

 

[Black Haven]

I don't think any black ethnic groups should be criticizing another one PERIOD especially if their group isn't in a healthy position as a whole either.

 

[AITheAnswerAI]

Entitled? No. But at the same time, as many 1st gen Americans will tell you, some of the behaviors that are displayed can be perplexing. Especially without context or knowledge of history. And so therefore, some will feel compelled to speak on it and question it.

Almost as perplexing as letting the white man come in and take your people, your land, your resources, and indoctrinate you with his religion.

Then after all that, do nothing in retaliation, and further appease said white man by promoting his mind control religion, and looking down on your own people who you gave up and never tried to avenge. Quite perplexing.

African Americans are a constant reminder, that Africans were cowards when it came to white men. Quick to attack your own, but you straighten up real quick for white daddy, don't you?

 

[intruder]

Almost as perplexing as letting the white man come in and take your people, your land, your resources, and indoctrinate you with his religion.

Then after all that, do nothing in retaliation, and further appease said white man by promoting his mind control religion, and looking down on your own people who you gave up and never tried to avenge. Quite perplexing.

African Americans are a constant reminder, that Africans were cowards when it came to white men. Quick to attack your own, but you straighten up real quick for white daddy, don't you?

I don't look at it that way.

At that time was being colonized by the British, French, Portuguese, and whoever else in Europe had warships they could spare to conquer distant lands.

In every war there are winners and there are losers. African tribes and nation's that were previously preoccupied with fighting each other were being picked apart by better equipped, more powerful enemIES that they hadn't seen before. They took their Ls and still haven't recovered.

That hatred you have against Africans should really be aimed at the British, your former slave masters who, while they allowed slavery in their colonies (modern day USA, Jamaica, Virgin islands, etc) also went onto colonize many territories in Africa and conditioning them to be the way they are.

Remember America (the nation) merely inherited and continued the slavery of Africans. Slavery was already here while this was still a British territory.

 

[intruder]

I had to come back to this.

@AITheAnswerAI , Do you understand that up until the 1950s and 1960s many of these African nations were still under British and French and Portuguese rule?

Nigeria was under British rule until the 1960s and so was Ghana and Kenya. Egypt didn't become independent until 1920s. The rest of them didn't get to become independent until the 1950s and 1960s when these European superpowers were weakened from having fought amongst them for 3 decades.

I understand some of you clones have a chip on your shoulder and are angry but that nonsense about 'africans didn't come rescue us ' bullshyt needs to stop. Them cats were tangled up and couldn't get these European colonists off them let alone come rescue you.

 

[intruder]

Listen to this, @AITheAnswerAI . Educate yourself, brother. I know it's a long lecture but play it over your car speakers while stuck on traffic or something



Start at the 7:10 minute mark to skip the long intro and pleasantries.