Did musicians help kill Black Hollywood?

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I watched 90s movies this weekend and wondered when the last time I’ve seen a strong film with a Black cast, outside of Black Panther.

The 90s saw a lot of creativity and opportunities for actors and actresses of all tiers, but 2000s-on Beyonce, Rihanna, T.I., Alicia Keys, etc. began their careers and acting debuts-while I’m not sure they “stole” spots, they def stunk up movies with performances I can’t help but think actual actors would have done better.

Outside of Ava DuVernay and Tyler Perry (who is terrible but prominent), I barely hear of names of Black directors. Spike isn’t active, Nat Parker is finished, and I can’t think of anyone else besides Ryan Coogler, who isn’t even close to being a household name. Issa Rae and Lena Waithe, while talented, only have a single work to their names.

Will Smith is the exception, not the rule. Iirc he started off acting anyway. Queen Latifah is decent, but def appears in awful movies.

Is Black Hollywood no longer bankable?
 
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I think we just need to branch off into more genres. How is it that Jordan Peele is the first black director i know of that made horror movies?
Will and Denzel held down action, and we had plenty of people who came and went that did action well too, like Wesley, Richard Roundtree, Carl Weathers,Jim Kelly etc.
But the rest mainly do comedy, Ice Cube, Eddie, Hart, Tucker,etc or Crime/Hood films

Action or Comedy or Crime films for Black Hollywood? That's it.

No Horror, Sci Fi, Animation, Fantasy, Historical Drama(outside of slave movies)

Need to get more film stars/film makers that make more variety of films. There are studio out there that make billions off mainly just fantasy and animation flicks. We need a Tyler Perry that makes black Pixer movies, or Black Sci Fi movies. Not just low budget soap opera comedies.
 

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I think we just need to branch off into more genres. How is it that Jordan Peele is the first black director i know of that made horror movies?

No Horror, Sci Fi, Animation, Fantasy, Historical Drama(outside of slave movies)

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we have had some of these. All infact, if you are looking beyond Movies and count other forms of entertainment(tv shows and so on)

and we had Rusty Cundieff with Tales from the Hood. Jordan Peele being the first nikka you know of to do Horror is your fault.
 

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we have had some of these. All infact, if you are looking beyond Movies and count other forms of entertainment(tv shows and so on)

and we had Rusty Cundieff with Tales from the Hood. Jordan Peele being the first nikka you know of to do Horror is your fault.
I know of tales from the hood, but i'm talking about big budget hollywood films. Name an example in that category.
 

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we have had some of these. All infact, if you are looking beyond Movies and count other forms of entertainment(tv shows and so on)

and we had Rusty Cundieff with Tales from the Hood. Jordan Peele being the first nikka you know of to do Horror is your fault.

Ones that have been released in the past five years?
 

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I watched 90s movies this weekend and wondered when the last time I’ve seen a strong film with a Black cast, outside of Black Panther.

The 90s saw a lot of creativity and opportunities for actors and actresses of all tiers, but 2000s-on Beyonce, Rihanna, T.I., Alicia Keys, etc. began their careers and acting debuts-while I’m not sure they “stole” spots, they def stunk up movies with performances I can’t help but think actual actors would have done better.

Outside of Ava DuVernay and Tyler Perry (who is terrible but prominent), I barely hear of names of Black directors. Spike isn’t active, Nat Turner is finished, and I can’t think of anyone else besides Ryan Coogler, who isn’t even close to being a household name. Issa Rae and Lena Waithe, while talented, only have a single work to their names.

Will Smith is the exception, not the rule. Iirc he started off acting anyway. Queen Latifah is decent, but def appears in awful movies.

Is Black Hollywood no longer bankable?
Steve mcqueen
 

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Hollywood aint banking on nothing but blockbusters/franchises and a few white "it girls"...

Then add in universality and diversity being the go-to for movies these days, people don't care to make movies solely for minority groups. Even majority black cast movies like Peele's, Black Panther and the historical dramas are made to appeal to diverse audiences who are fans of the genre.

But the late 80's - early 00's for black entertainment will never be duplicated - it was the right timing, becoming more recognized in the greater society due to the protests from the 50's-70's, plus a boon in entertainment and access to just enough technology to democratize audience desires while not becoming so pervasive that you have all the niches and ways to circumvent paying for entertainment ( or being advertised to) the way it is today.

Lastly, a lot of the black youth (what drives entertainment) don't seem to even care about the "for us by us" movement, they'd gladly watch the multi racial, non gender-conforming version of A Different World without even considering asking for the black version that people demanded and supported in the 80's/90's
 

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I watched 90s movies this weekend and wondered when the last time I’ve seen a strong film with a Black cast, outside of Black Panther.

The 90s saw a lot of creativity and opportunities for actors and actresses of all tiers, but 2000s-on Beyonce, Rihanna, T.I., Alicia Keys, etc. began their careers and acting debuts-while I’m not sure they “stole” spots, they def stunk up movies with performances I can’t help but think actual actors would have done better.

Outside of Ava DuVernay and Tyler Perry (who is terrible but prominent), I barely hear of names of Black directors. Spike isn’t active, Nat Turner is finished, and I can’t think of anyone else besides Ryan Coogler, who isn’t even close to being a household name. Issa Rae and Lena Waithe, while talented, only have a single work to their names.

Will Smith is the exception, not the rule. Iirc he started off acting anyway. Queen Latifah is decent, but def appears in awful movies.

Is Black Hollywood no longer bankable?
malcolm lee movies michael jai white movies
 
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