Dave Meltzer: Cain Velasquez Beats Any Fedor Emelianenko 8/10 Times

[PTBG]

As far as greatest ever, to me, you can only be fairly compared with your era. Some people will short-circuit over this because the worship of Fedor Emelianenko is like a religion and people hate to hear that there is no God, but this Cain Velasquez beats any Fedor Emelianenko eight times out of ten. Emelianenko's takedown defense was nowhere near that of Dos Santos, nor was his stand-up as good or as versatile. His footwork wasn't close to as good, and Dos Santos as a physically bigger and quicker athlete.

Emelianenko did hit hard and could win. He had a submission game but he's not submitting Velasquez, and he's not outworking him to win rounds, nor could he match his conditioning. Realistically, he lost to Dan Henderson and Bigfoot Silva and there is no way, even at his best, he could have gotten past Junior Dos Santos, other than the same puncher's chance.

Emelianenko did fatten his record on a number of circus opponents, but that's what Pride was, essentially Japanese pro wrestling without the fights being fixed. You can't knock him for his era or his surroundings. All you can do is beat what is in front of you. Emelianenko did so from 2000 to 2009. Not many of his opponents could have survived in today's UFC, but he did beat Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira twice, who was clearly the No. 2 heavyweight of his era, and his win over Mirko Cro Cop was the great heavyweight fight of its era..

So as an all-around fighter and who would win head-to-head, I'd go with Velasquez.

Always thought and still think Fedor is the GOAT HW and up there still as MMA GOAT with Anderson, but Cain definitetly has the tools to beat Fedor. But, I think the fight would be more different in a PRIDE ring though, and Cain wouldn't be able to push the pace and pressure as much when compared to the UFC octagon. But, I think the fight would be close and Cain wouldn't be able to or want to stand with Fedor though imo.

 

[firemanBk]

Cain beats Fedor 8/10 times but things are constantly changing and nothing's set in stone

 

[The G.O.D II]

Meltzer Meltzer I would more then likely pick Cain. But 8/10 time?

 

[HamAndEgger]

Spoiler

 

[puppetmaster]

now that would be a fun scrap if we had a time machine or something. Cain would absolutely be a rough match up indeed prime for prime but Fedor's chin was excellent so it's not like he was gonna get KO'ed on the feet. They both recover damn near immediately from hard shots

8 out of 10 is kinda disrespectful tho IMO. Cain gets angry, reckless and a tad sloppy whenever he gets hit, Fedor would only need to hit him once clean with those quick looping hooks, especially being that Cain charges forward often plus can and usually does get rocked in most of his fights. Fedor wasn't impossible to take down but he was deceptively slick off of his back so getting ground and pounded wouldn't have been easy to just do and clinching with him to wear on him the way Cain likes to wouldn't be a good idea because Cain could get thrown on his head like anyone.


-P-

 

[jackswstd]

Fedor would have his hands full but he was great off his back, and I think would catch Cain in an armbar or some other submission at some point.

 

[Amare's Right Hook]

I posted this on Sherdog YEARS ago and got banned for it now its cutting edge journalism. GTFO

 

[bsmooth]

All this talk about fighters being way better now than they were before is starting to get way overblown. People starting to act like Fedor and prime Cro Cop were Art Jimmerson and Harold Howard

 

[The G.O.D II]

Fedor would have his hands full but he was great off his back, and I think would catch Cain in an armbar or some other submission at some point.

Naw. Cain is too aggressive and smothering with his top game. Combine the top notch wrestling with a black belt in BJJ. He wont just leave his arm out there like bum slow ass Mark Coleman

 

[jackswstd]

Naw. Cain is too aggressive and smothering with his top game. Combine the top notch wrestling with a black belt in BJJ. He wont just leave his arm out there like bum slow ass Mark Coleman

We'll never know.

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

Fedor fukking sucks and I cannot fukking stand how everyone sucks his cock because "ZOMG WINNING STREAK!!!!11!" Look, he ran up the numbers against some decent guys but in comparison to the guys who were fighting below his weight class? Come the fukk on. He had it way easier. It's easy to run up a winning streak like that when you have the guys that Fedor had in contrast to the guys that were fighting in other divisions. Cain slaughters Fedor at least 8/10 times. I know that it's blasphemy to ever criticize Fedor Emelianenko, ever, on a MMA forum, but people need to come to terms with reality and realize that once Cain could avoid that predictable overhand right and the arm bar, Cain would have bloodied up a prime Fedor worse than Bigfoot Silva did to the past prime one.