Creating comics for a Black audience? Think again

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Creating comics for a Black audience? Think again


Creating comics for a Black audience? Think again
For about 5 years plus, on my journey of being a comic book creator I have been dragged into groups on facebook, contacted by bloggers and journalists for small press publications and even asked by fans about the “support” that Black comic book creators get along with the other hot topic of “diversity” (God I hate that word). This seems to be a big discussion among many Black creators in comics and the conversation doesn’t get any easier to navigate when you get a few disingenuous, liberal non Black people in the discussion who drop the cliche line (drum roll please)……..

“it shouldn’t matter what race you are…blah blah blah”. I swear that sentence is a distant cousin of “All Lives Matter” *hock and spit*.

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Forgive me for my fiery wording, I get like that sometimes.

LISTEN TO ME AND HEAR ME WELL.

In order to address this topic you need to do something that many Black people are not good at doing, REMOVE YOUR NON BLACK FRIENDS FROM THE DISCUSSION.

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I guess having the discussion on social media and doing this blog is an oxymoron to what I just advised but the truth of the matter is none of your non black friends are going to understand the context, and you will end up just arguing and possibly losing friends over the word play that gets lost in translation when it ain’t even that deep.

So, here you are, you have created your Black superhero, got the character designs done, poster images all over social media and the pencil artist of your choice is working on your comic book pages as well as your colourist. You are excited, you are overwhelmed at the retweets and shares as well as all the likes, hashtags and emojis for your concept and you may of even done a crowd fund and hit your goal tenfold.

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All of this is cool and feels nice and fluffy inside but the SALES is gonna be the real factor here. Your issue 1 will likely do well but the next issue is where the test comes in. Now it is important to know that this is not a “how to” post, look at it more like a soldier coming back from the battlefield giving you the status or progress of the mission.

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Hard Wired Revolution issue 3 page

As a soldier who has come back bloodied up from battle (who also destroyed the target I’d add) I am telling you right now, you need to stop catering your comic book stories to Black nerds or even comic book readers. Yes you read right, do not make your comics for these people.

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Hard Wired Revolution issue 3 page

Right now you are thinking I am crazy right? I know how words can play on some peoples mind but hear me out. The vast majority of Black nerds that attend comic cons in my city can range from all kinds of ages but if you are talking about the dedicated comic geeks in the small enclave we call the Black community you can simply forget it. Those Black comic book nerds are more focused on characters they grew up watching and reading as a child (which is totally normal and fine). Most Black nerds tend to look at the work but not necessarily buy it on site but for every time that happens I tend to get a purchase from them online at another day.

I think that part of this comes down to taste and I grew up on Transformers and Batman which shaped my taste in my older years but I wasn’t really a comic book reader that much, I would binge on some graphic novels from time to time but that was about it.

The point is that these people have become accustomed to their Spidermans, Batmans and Supermans as well as all the others so your indie comic is now an acquired taste for them if they so chose to go there which means they will always be comparing your work to what they grew up on. I don’t think that Black nerds should be made to feel guilty about their choices either by the way, they want what they want and that is fine, I guess the real problem is that we take them too seriously when they cry about diversity. The fact is when Black nerd types talk about diversity in comics they are really talking about diversity in Marvel and DC.



Marvel and DC is their home and they do not want to leave it even if you have something different that is everything they claim they want. The real problem here is us, yes us the independent Black comic book creators. The Black nerd is trying to live out a nostalgic dream so he can go back in time and show his white friends his John Steward Green lantern action figure in the playground with the the other white kids who had a He-Man or Superman and Batman action figure, he is the left out Black nerd who wants retribution. We as comic book creators are trying to win over this Black nerd with insecurity issues but you are pandering to someone that wants to relive their past childhood instead of pandering to the Black children who are actually IN their childhood right now today. This is a bit like when a guy is trying to win the heart of a woman he loves so much but she loves someone else who doesn’t care about her. It ain’t your job to save that woman and it ain’t your job to save a Black nerd from their insecurities as they are adults.

Now let me say this, the majority of children (of all races) I see at comic cons look bored because a lot of what is going on they can not even relate to, a 10 year old doesn’t give a pack of skittles about a damn infinity gauntlet or what Thanos wants it for. They do not care why the New 52 is cancelled so DC can reboot their stories AGAIN or even what New 52 even means and they do not give a damn about why Peter Parker can’t be Black. They only care about what they can relate to and what they can discuss with their own peer group (namely their school friends).




I will never forget the girl dress up as Pikachu at a comic con who had a face expression telling me she would rather be at home doing her homework. The parents were having a great time though, which is exactly my point.




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You are worrying about winning the hearts of adults who are already set in their ways. Now let me tell you something about the youth, my son is 17 and he listens to UK trap music, the likes of Sneak Bo, MoStack, Stormzy, Krept and Konan etc are among the names of some of the people he listens to. He is well aware of American rappers like Frenchy Montana too but he has NO CLUE who Max B or Stack bundles is. He is not even aware of Dipset…….EXCUSE ME? I ain’t too sure how that happened but he gets good grades in school so I don’t mind him not being clued up on hip hop in its entirety.

To me that is CRAZY but it is his reality, he didn’t grow up on what I grew up on so he is only going to gravitate to what he is exposed to. (Disclaimer, I am older than you think and I grew up on Kool G rap and Blackmoon etc so don’t go thinking my hip hop history starts at Dipset thank you very much). I am giving this example to give you an idea of context because while I know not all of my followers are Black I know that many of you will understand the concept of the generational shift in Hip Hop.

Anyway my point is the kids aged 6 and above is who Black comic book creators should be aiming for, time flies and if you can get these children into your work from an early age your work can grow with them a bit like how Nas grew with me with his first album Illmatic to what he is doing today.

With the amount of impressionable Black children we have around today there is a wide audience of new young fans who likely don’t even know where to start with the current comics in the mainstream so why not introduce your work to them? Imagine having a 6 year old faithful to your creativity well into his mid twenties, all you have to do is keep creating your work and keep promoting it to that demographic. Sooner or later those older fans I told you to forget about will likely come back to you when they see how much progress you made and that is when they take whatever you give them. They seem to have no problem going back to watch that awful Batman Vs Superman film TWICE and that is because they are following the blogs of people invested in the idea that the film is a good film (which is certainly is not).

When you have Black comic book nerds who think Batman vs Superman is good enough to go and watch twice while they make excuses about not supporting Black comic characters they claim they want it is time to stop playing captain save a blerd.


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The priceless Black youth is who deserves our attention and you never know, one of these kids could be the next best film director in the world who dreamed or doing film on your comic they grew up reading.

















Go to more local events in your local area, link up with your local library, link up with other independent comic book creators and have your own event tailored towards younger readers, but for pity sake stop trying to pander to these Black nerds who simply spend most of their time on Black Twitter as well as dating sites and porn hub.





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The success will not happen over night but you will feel better for it and I can assure you this way of working is effective. You can also check the video I made on this very subject as this blog was just to highlight a few other things I may of missed when I first had this thought on my mind.




Also don’t forget that you can contact me if you have any art commissions you need and you can get your All Knightz fix of comics right here at www.allknightz.com
 

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Article is 100% truth.

The reality is that, exceptions aside, a lot of black comic book fans are just as conservative as their non-black counterparts. If said characters aren't from the Big 2, they don't give a fukk.

And even being a Big 2 character doesn't guarantee anything either. If said character isn't affiliated with a major franchise, a lot of those same fans won't give a fukk either.

Only two black solo books in recent memory (possibly ever, in fact. Can't say for sure) have sold well: Black Panther (a franchise on the rise) and Miles Morales (Spidey affiliate). The rest are either underwhelming in the long term (Sam Wilson, Power Man & Iron Fist, War Machine) or straight up tanked (Nighthawk, Storm, Moon Girl, etc).

Also, many black comic book fans claim they want diversity, but let's be 100: they don't really care about it like that. They just want a seat in the cool kids (popular characters) table. If said character doesn't have a "name" or potential to be popular, they don't care. Resulting in them caring more about very few Big 2 characters. The indie folks get mentally thrown to the bushes from the jump.

There's nothing fundamentally wrong with having that mindset, btw. I just wish they were honest about it.
 
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This one is easy, you guys haven't figured this out by now?

Well the biggest issue is the poor art, straight up nikkas be looking constipated it's gross:stopitslime:. Black made comics tend to be out of style for the actual black demographic, still using the big ugly angry bald black man with military whatever shyt was boring the 1st time when white people spammed it, why you choose to follow behind them? I don't know but dead horse is dead, try something new just try:yeshrug:

The black characters often look stupid/basic as hell, and with natural black hair being popular again, it's funny how most of the black characters don't have natural hair, and no not the mohawk that's a native american hairstyle. Also they put their best work and art for black females who don't even read comic books like that, females prefer drama/stories and something more tame or casual in contrast to Males who prefer more action but the story takes a hit so yeah females like walls of text.

The lack of creativity is the big issue, and with these black artist being inspired by big bald strong slow ugly old black man # 942828786y439821 these nikkas never had any creativity to begin with.

Actually a big issue is the lack of respect for younger audiences and a lack of responsibility overall, I don't think black people understand that batman started out rated G
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than as audiences grew older it went up to PG 13 than finally rated R.
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As an example the main reason static was popular was because Virgil was normal and didn't bytch about racism while looking like a dumbass thug with stupid hair. But Virgil wasn't stupid and that what made him interesting. Audiences can relate to Virgil that's why he was popular compared to black lightning or storm.
 

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I agree with him. You would be better off trying to get the kids into your comic. Always thought something like how japan does with the weekly or monthly b/w chapters would work over here.


Well the biggest issue is the poor art, straight up nikkas be looking constipated it's gross:stopitslime:. Black made comics tend to be out of style for the actual black demographic, still using the big ugly angry bald black man with military whatever shyt was boring the 1st time when white people spammed it, why you choose to follow behind them? I don't know but dead horse is dead, try something new just try:yeshrug:

The black characters often look stupid/basic as hell, and with natural black hair being popular again, it's funny how most of the black characters don't have natural hair, and no not the mohawk that's a native american hairstyle.


well dude is an older kat. The younger black artists that grew up with anime and japanese video games don't draw black dudes like that
 

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This one is easy, you guys haven't figured this out by now?

Well the biggest issue is the poor art, straight up nikkas be looking constipated it's gross:stopitslime:. Black made comics tend to be out of style for the actual black demographic, still using the big ugly angry bald black man with military whatever shyt was boring the 1st time when white people spammed it, why you choose to follow behind them? I don't know but dead horse is dead, try something new just try:yeshrug:

The black characters often look stupid/basic as hell, and with natural black hair being popular again, it's funny how most of the black characters don't have natural hair, and no not the mohawk that's a native american hairstyle. Also they put their best work and art for black females who don't even read comic books like that, females prefer drama/stories and something more tame or casual in contrast to Males who prefer more action but the story takes a hit so yeah females like walls of text.

The lack of creativity is the big issue, and with these black artist being inspired by big bald strong slow ugly old black man # 942828786y439821 these nikkas never had any creativity to begin with.

Actually a big issue is the lack of respect for younger audiences and a lack of responsibility overall, I don't think black people understand that batman started out rated G
hot-toys-batman-collectible-3.jpg
than as audiences grew older it went up to PG 13 than finally rated R.
maxresdefault.jpg


As an example the main reason static was popular was because Virgil was normal and didn't bytch about racism while looking like a dumbass thug with stupid hair. But Virgil wasn't stupid and that what made him interesting. Audiences can relate to Virgil that's why he was popular compared to black lightning or storm.
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There's nothing wrong with having an independant comic with a black lead or main character.... You just gotta keep pushing it. I believe it can make a dent in mainstream but you gotta hit on all cylinders.... Also it doesnt hurt to have some sort of push behind it, Commercials & radio publicity, connections... Thats what Im trying to do with my Novel & future stories its not easy but building connections goes a long way...
 

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I'm a fairly decent artist, and I was thinking of making comics. But what I wanted to do was make an open source lore that other black writers can use for their stories sort of like the SCP foundation, and incorporate that with a choose your own adventure style of writing where people from the forum can participate with your own spin on things too of course. That way you don't have to "guess" what your viewers want, they are already participating so it's inherently a part of the story. I hope that doesn't sound too strange! I was thinking maybe I could post it here or somewhere else, but I'm not sure if anyone would be interested.
 

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Really interesting read.

I spent 8 months last year working on stories and scripting a book. My illustrator is working on our style guide, at the moment and we should be able to get rolling in the Early Spring.

Have any of the brehs in here checked out the 'Aya' stories? They're written by Margeurite Abouet - she's from Cote D'Ivoire but lives in Paris. I picked up one of her books in London on a whim in 07, and ended up meeting her in Toronto last year. She writes from an African perspective, and her books have been turned into animated movies over the past few years.Her first book sold 200,000 in France - I guess the point I'm making is that it's definitely worth looking at what some Black creators from abroad are doing, because there are things we can learn from their approach.
 

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I'm a fairly decent artist, and I was thinking of making comics. But what I wanted to do was make an open source lore that other black writers can use for their stories sort of like the SCP foundation, and incorporate that with a choose your own adventure style of writing where people from the forum can participate with your own spin on things too of course. That way you don't have to "guess" what your viewers want, they are already participating so it's inherently a part of the story. I hope that doesn't sound too strange! I was thinking maybe I could post it here or somewhere else, but I'm not sure if anyone would be interested.

Post it here
 

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There's nothing wrong with having an independant comic with a black lead or main character.... You just gotta keep pushing it. I believe it can make a dent in mainstream but you gotta hit on all cylinders.... Also it doesnt hurt to have some sort of push behind it, Commercials & radio publicity, connections... Thats what Im trying to do with my Novel & future stories its not easy but building connections goes a long way...
Anything is possible.

I created my webcomic solely for the fact that media pretty much hates showing educated, Alpha-male protagonists who are just as badass as their white counterparts. I never intended to have many subscribers due to the content but I have 100+ thus far.
The thing that bothers me is that a majority of my followers may not black for which my comic was intended for.:francis:

It can be frustrating but if someone doesn't try to move the needle, ain't no sense in bytchin' about it. Push on if it's what you love.
 
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