Marc Spector
the 4'11 Cuban
this is cap my guy. Look at the voting blocs in Washington and California when AA renewal bills hit the floor in state legislatures. They were overwhelmingly voted against by Asians.
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False.
This was covered in a different thread already. As someone who was there and watched it happening in real time, the entire rollout of the measure was screwed up and many people were confused about which to vote for. All the Asian civil rights groups came out in favor of Affirmative Action, as well as the Asian president of the UC students association, but it wasn't enough because the anti Affirmative Action side was able to frame the discussion like they were the non-racist option. Polling did show that Asians mildly opposed the measure about 50 to 40, but even Black people were only supporting the measure by about 58 to 33, and undecideds were a high 10% for both. Hispanics were polled as a split even though affirmative action clearly helps them.
If you're going with the Cali polls, then you're saying that 50% of Asians agreed with 33% of Black folk and 40% of Asians agreed with 58% of Black folk. The racial splits on the measure were more similar than different.
Education ended up predicting the vote as much as anything. Every bay area county voted in favor of having AA, los Angeles was split 50-50, and the rest of cali was against it.
Here were the comments on that race that I made years ago:
Prop. 16 was a complete fukkup, everyone knew the whole time that the ballot language was confusing and voters weren't clear on what they were voting for and why. Your own article says exactly that. Those campaigning against the measure were better organized than those who were for it and got their message across better.
Most major Asian-American civil rights groups supported the measure, including:
* Asian Americans Advancing Justice - Asian Law Caucus
* Asian Americans Advancing Justice - Los Angeles
* Asian Pacific American Labor Alliance
* Japanese American Citizens League
* Chinese for Affirmative Action
* Organization of Chinese Americans
* California Democratic Asian Pacific Islander Caucus
Varsha Sarveshwar, president of the University of California Student Association.
Gaurav Khanna, professor of economics at UC San Diego
Affirmative Action Incentivizes High Schoolers to Perform Better, New Research Shows
While the direct effects of affirmative action on college admissions are well known, new evidence from India shows that affirmative action has indirect benefits on the behavior of underrepresented high school students, who tend to stay in school longer when they know higher education is within...today.ucsd.edu
The racial breakdowns on Prop 16 were weird. This was the last poll:
WTH? Only 58% of Black voters in favor with 33% against, even though it's clearly pro-Black. Latinos were slightly against the measure somehow, even though it would have helped them. And Native Americans were the strongest against it even though it would help them the most! In that context, I don't see the slight 50-40 polling by Asian-Americans to be against the measure as a big deal. 50% of Asian-Americans were just agreeing with 33% of Black folk. Obviously, voting on this measure ended up being some weird, nuanced shyt.
The only counties who voted for Prop 16 in the end were San Francisco (64%), Alameda (59%), Marin (56%), San Mateo (51%), Santa Cruz (52%), and Los Angeles (51%). Considering California's demographics, obviously it was rural White California and the lack of unified support in the Black/Latino communities that played the biggest role in stopping it from passing. Yeah, there were a certain component of Asians who were against it (mostly aspirational lower-attainment families who thought affirmative action would mean their children wouldn't get slots in good colleges and voted on that self-interest), but it's not what Asian-American activists were advocating at all.
For one minor example, when a ballot measure came to bring Affirmative Action back to the UC system in California, virtually all the Asian civil rights groups supported it. Asian Americans Advancing Justice, Asian Pacific American Labor Alliance, Japanese American Citizens League, Chinese for Affirmative Action, Organization of Chinese Americans, California Democratic Asian Pacific Islander Caucus, and the Indian-American president of the UC Student Association (Varsha Sarveshwar) all came out strongly in favor of restoring Affirmative Action, and other Asian voices in media and academia came out in favor of it as well.
https://www.sacbee.com/article243306511.html
Affirmative Action Incentivizes High Schoolers to Perform Better, New Research Shows
While the direct effects of affirmative action on college admissions are well known, new evidence from India shows that affirmative action has indirect benefits on the behavior of underrepresented high school students, who tend to stay in school longer when they know higher education is within...today.ucsd.edu
Why conservative claims about Asian Americans and affirmative action don't hold water
A white-led organization is using Asian American plaintiffs to beat back affirmative action polices in colleges. But Asian Americans broadly back affirmative action.www.msnbc.com
69% of Asian American Registered Voters Support Affirmative Action - AAPI Data
In spite of racially charged campaigns by opponents of affirmative action that have portrayed Asian Americans as adversaries, a strong majority of Asian American registered voters supports the policy in university admissions. Moreover, Asian American support has remained stable and high for...aapidata.com
Asian Americans Aren't Fooled by Anti-Diversity Pros
In a nationwide survey of registered Asian American voters, nearly 70 percent of Asian American voters were in favor of affirmative action. That included 82 percent of Korean, and 80 percent of Indian voters.www.diverseeducation.com
Why Edward Blum is No Friend to Asian Americans by Stephanie Drenka - VISIBLE Magazine
Who is the mystery man leading the charge behind Students for Fair Admissions' lawsuit against Harvard University?visiblemagazine.com
Edward Blum is a puppeteer — and Asian Americans are his puppets - The Wellesley News
In 2018, Students for Fair Admissions, Inc. v Harvard, colloquially known as the Harvard Affirmative Action case, challenged Harvard University’s...thewellesleynews.com
Limited capacity, a very low # of admissions at the high quality end, and they don't offer the same opportunities to build connections to the existing power structures that are available for students at elite PWI institutions.
Not that we should neglect HBCUs, they're an enormous asset and need better support. But I don't think it would benefit the Black community to be limited to those options.
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