Can Yall experts explain to me why....

[The God Poster]

Rappers who talk about drugs,hoes tha come up for a whole album get points deducted for not having any variety. But a backpacker can rap about "real hip hop" "sell outs" & the simp life the whole album and its all good

Same thing with r&b singers and club/love songs

 

[DaveyDave]

IMO everybody BEEN rappin about the same shyt for at least the last 20 years, mainstream and underground. it's not so much what you spit about but HOW that i care about. if you sound generic as fukk and boring then i'm not gonna fukk with you no matter how good your beats are or how "real" you are

 

[Sugar]

IMO everybody BEEN rappin about the same shyt for at least the last 20 years, mainstream and underground. it's not so much what you spit about but HOW that i care about. if you sound generic as fukk and boring then i'm not gonna fukk with you no matter how good your beats are or how "real" you are

I co-sign this. Nobody is saying anything new. They're just saying it differently and saying it well.

 

[Ineedmoney504]

cause nikkaz on the internet hate anything that popular, so u can bump some trash rapper talk bout fighting the power(no diss to public enemy) but if a rapper talk bout street shyt its a problem and all he talks bout is the same shyt

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

nikkas get mad at folks rapping about the things they know, but the second they start rapping about shyt they dont...nikkas mad you rapping bout shyt you don't really know anything about.

blame the elitists.

 

[SEC Hater]

Rappers who talk about drugs,hoes tha come up for a whole album get points deducted for not having any variety. But a backpacker can rap about "real hip hop" "sell outs" & the simp life the whole album and its all good

Same thing with r&b singers and club/love songs

I personally dont care. Every rapper has their "niche". People talk about so and so is repetitive and always talks about the same shyt. Well no shyt, thats what got them on in the first place, so stick with the formula. I never listened to Meek before his album leaked the other day, but people are bytching saying he talks about the same shyt. I dont want to hear nothing else from him, and if he got on some backpack type shyt I wouldnt listen to it. Same goes for every other rapper I listen to, stay in your lane basically. Just my two cents

 

[BlackZilla]

The issue isn't really subject matter, but more or less the artform. If you're generic then you're gonna come off as repetitive, because it's all been done before.

It's more of a lack of creativity that people give flak for, and not what you talk about.

 

[BlackZilla]

cause nikkaz on the internet hate anything that popular, so u can bump some trash rapper talk bout fighting the power(no diss to public enemy) but if a rapper talk bout street shyt its a problem and all he talks bout is the same shyt

You can't really slice it like that though. Backpackers have no choice BUT to talk about fighting the power, otherwise they're seen as hypocrites.

If Chuck D all of a sudden started rapping about slinging crack, fukking bytches in the back of his car and whatnot, then he would get a lot of flak from the fans because he's being a hypocrite. If a rapper like Meek rapped about the consequences of the street life and try to encourage others to not go that route, he'll be commended for it.

What you people need to realise is that rappers like Meek actually have more room to work with than backpacking rappers do. Seeing that Meek for example was about that life, he can rap about selling drugs and whatnot and he can also rap about the consequences of living that kind of life.

Think about it, what else can a backpacker really rap about, apart from fighting the power and not lose his credibility?? As opposed to all the supergangstas in the past that have both bragged about bustin guns and whatnot, but have also been able to rap about the downsides to being a street dude, and are seen as a real dude. (Like Big L for instance, who had both All Black and Street Struck on the same album, Tupac is another example).

 

[Ineedmoney504]

You can't really slice it like that though. Backpackers have no choice BUT to talk about fighting the power, otherwise they're seen as hypocrites.

If Chuck D all of a sudden started rapping about slinging crack, fukking bytches in the back of his car and whatnot, then he would get a lot of flak from the fans because he's being a hypocrite. If a rapper like Meek rapped about the consequences of the street life and try to encourage others to not go that route, he'll be commended for it.

What you people need to realise is that rappers like Meek actually have more room to work with than backpacking rappers do. Seeing that Meek for example was about that life, he can rap about selling drugs and whatnot and he can also rap about the consequences of living that kind of life.

Think about it, what else can a backpacker really rap about, apart from fighting the power and not lose his credibility?? As opposed to all the supergangstas in the past that have both bragged about bustin guns and whatnot, but have also been able to rap about the downsides to being a street dude, and are seen as a real dude. (Like Big L for instance, who had both All Black and Street Struck on the same album, Tupac is another example).

at the end of the day i want rappers to rap about what they want to and not feel obligated to rap about some shyt they not feeling and wont have they heart into, if they turn around rap about some other shyt that backpackers like and its good ill still be but if its trash ill and keep moving

if chuck d start rapping bout other shyt i would if its hot, but most of them rappers can only make one type of music, and that shyt would be

and meek does kinda rap about the downside of it, he raps about how he was traumatized when his pops got killed and how it fukked him up, talked bout what who u around and how u love your nikkaz, but they will turn on u

 

[nineteeneightysix]

IMO everybody BEEN rappin about the same shyt for at least the last 20 years, mainstream and underground. it's not so much what you spit about but HOW that i care about. if you sound generic as fukk and boring then i'm not gonna fukk with you no matter how good your beats are or how "real" you are

100% Agree...

At this point in the music game (regardless of genre), every type of lyric has already been written and spat...

For example, I was listening to Loaded Lux' "work" battle and he said "to live backwards is evil," and I swear on my mother's grave, I wrote that exact bar when 10 years ago when was 16...Somebody probably came up with it before me and so on...

All care about right now is "believability" I don't care if a rapper is talking about having orgies with aliens on Venus/Mars or if he/she is just talking about daily inconsequential happenings...

I just want the rapper to convince me to take that journey with them...

That's why agreed with Shyne's opinion on Kendrick Lamar, and that's why I have "Traffic" by Lil Reese on repeat, but I wont even bother listening to that Kendrick album, from the little I heard, I don't believe dude, and therefore, his lyrical skills are irrelevant to me...

 

[nineteeneightysix]

You can't really slice it like that though. Backpackers have no choice BUT to talk about fighting the power, otherwise they're seen as hypocrites.

If Chuck D all of a sudden started rapping about slinging crack, fukking bytches in the back of his car and whatnot, then he would get a lot of flak from the fans because he's being a hypocrite. If a rapper like Meek rapped about the consequences of the street life and try to encourage others to not go that route, he'll be commended for it.

What you people need to realise is that rappers like Meek actually have more room to work with than backpacking rappers do. Seeing that Meek for example was about that life, he can rap about selling drugs and whatnot and he can also rap about the consequences of living that kind of life.

Think about it, what else can a backpacker really rap about, apart from fighting the power and not lose his credibility?? As opposed to all the supergangstas in the past that have both bragged about bustin guns and whatnot, but have also been able to rap about the downsides to being a street dude, and are seen as a real dude. (Like Big L for instance, who had both All Black and Street Struck on the same album, Tupac is another example).

I disagree...

The subject matter is not as relevant, as the perspective a rapper uses to address a particular subject matter...

I am a middle class dude who has never seen a gun or cocaine...But watching movies and listening to hip hop, I sometimes get that dreamy infatuation and fantasize of selling kilos and winning gun fights against my enemies...Just like Nas was doing on "New York Sate Of Mind"...

So if I was a good lyricist with a good delivery, I could rap about all the social conscious staff, but also mesh in coke dealer fantasies, and the audience would accept it, depending on the way I present it...

And to me that's what makes a good rapper...

Good rappers like Pac, Nas, Biggie, Bone Thugs and many more, could go from dealing drugs, killing people for no reason, denouncing the system, respecting women to misogyny and etc all in one album, and still make the album sound cohesive and complete...

That's the test of a true lyricist...

In my, great artists (in any genre) are controversial, because life is not black and white...

Even a backpacker may feel like killing one day or consider selling crack when put in a tough position, if you have the talent to present your perspective in a convincing manner, and you have right music, you will be accepted...

 

[Beegio]

Rappers who talk about drugs,hoes tha come up for a whole album get points deducted for not having any variety. But a backpacker can rap about "real hip hop" "sell outs" & the simp life the whole album and its all good

Same thing with r&b singers and club/love songs

How about listen to what you like and don't worry about what somebody else likes. You'll be happier in life.

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

100% Agree...

At this point in the music game (regardless of genre), every type of lyric has already been written and spat...

For example, I was listening to Loaded Lux' "work" battle and he said "to live backwards is evil," and I swear on my mother's grave, I wrote that exact bar when 10 years ago when was 16...Somebody probably came up with it before me and so on...

All care about right now is "believability" I don't care if a rapper is talking about having orgies with aliens on Venus/Mars or if he/she is just talking about daily inconsequential happenings...

I just want the rapper to convince me to take that journey with them...

That's why agreed with Shyne's opinion on Kendrick Lamar, and that's why I have "Traffic" by Lil Reese on repeat, but I wont even bother listening to that Kendrick album, from the little I heard, I don't believe dude, and therefore, his lyrical skills are irrelevant to me...

you agree with Shynes dumbass opinion...but you haven't even listened to the album to find out for yourself?

what exactly is their to believe about him? is he some savage nikka from compton fronting as a regular dude who's not really about that life?

 

[blackslash]

I disagree...

The subject matter is not as relevant, as the perspective a rapper uses to address a particular subject matter...

I am a middle class dude who has never seen a gun or cocaine...But watching movies and listening to hip hop, I sometimes get that dreamy infatuation and fantasize of selling kilos and winning gun fights against my enemies...Just like Nas was doing on "New York Sate Of Mind"...

So if I was a good lyricist with a good delivery, I could rap about all the social conscious staff, but also mesh in coke dealer fantasies, and the audience would accept it, depending on the way I present it...

And to me that's what makes a good rapper...

Good rappers like Pac, Nas, Biggie, Bone Thugs and many more, could go from dealing drugs, killing people for no reason, denouncing the system, respecting women to misogyny and etc all in one album, and still make the album sound cohesive and complete...

That's the test of a true lyricist...

In my, great artists (in any genre) are controversial, because life is not black and white...

Even a backpacker may feel like killing one day or consider selling crack when put in a tough position, if you have the talent to present your perspective in a convincing manner, and you have right music, you will be accepted...

Its simple.. The thing people get hit by the most when it comes to the product of an artist whether it be rap, novelist, etc etc. is the originality and the depth of concept.

One can easily make songs about teh drug game and what not
What makes it stick is if it is used as a concept to relay a deeper message/truth.

Which is what makes Kdot's music far and above the other mainstream rappers releasin albums,

It is not only his impeccable lyricism but its his album concept in which he walks us through a a "good kid" and what happens when a "maad city" gets a hold of him, this pushed by delicate writing, outstanding storytelling, and tho he can be monotone, the way in which he writes just pulls you into his shoes as if you're experiencing those events with him.

Also.....

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

it's simple

because anyone can rap about nothing and keep repeaint money hoes n whatever

but it takes more talent to rhyme about a given topic with actual substance

See one requires a brain and flow while the money hoe rapper only needs flow

any other questions?