Can the west win the war on terror?

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Aren't those by choice?



I'm not sure if the war on terror is a choice we can make.


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Doesn't matter. We are in it now, but just like poverty and drugs we aren't fighting a sovereign nation. We are fighting a condition/action/idea. The only way to get close to winning is genocide and doing that would destroy America.
 

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Doesn't matter. We are in it now, but just like poverty and drugs we aren't fighting a sovereign nation. We are fighting a condition/action/idea. The only way to get close to winning is genocide and doing that would destroy America.
I think they're false equivalencies...

Doesn't the world need population control?
 

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You can win a war against an army, but against a concept that's different. Something that is a issue with humanity takes more than a military loss to get rid of.
 

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You can win a war against an army, but against a concept that's different. Something that is a issue with humanity takes more than a military loss to get rid of.

Bingo. European countries terrorized each in the 20th century in just two World Wars alone killing over 100 million people alone. All this they did in a total of 10 years. That was almost a quarter of their population they killed off at the time :damn:

China, Soviet Union, Japan and many others terrorized their people and/or countries. The way Japan treated China and Korea in the early part of the 20th century was vulgar.

As long as their people...someone will be terrorized. Its sad but true. This is a flawed human condition and its deeper than Islam.
 

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You can't win a war against:

1. An idea;
2. Shiftable goal posts of the definition of Terrorism;
3. An enemy that has no face;

It will go on until there's a complete lockdown against being able to commit any sort of act of violence in public. You can't do that. You can't stop a guy walking into a public area with a concealed knife/gun and going crazy.

The only way you can do this is if you lock everything down into a Demolition Man-type scenario with x-ray cameras, everyone monitored and movements/purchases traced at all times. You can't have cash, either. You'd have to make every transaction traceable and digital.

For example, in this hypothetical monitored society. A man tries to buy, let's say, the ingredients to make a bomb. Every item he buys individually over a course of time is registered to his unique ID in a database. When certain suspicious items cluster, extra special attention is paid to this person. And a search of their domicile is performed.

Full lazer, infra-red, x-ray scan, like in Deus Ex. Or they could send in insect droids.

It's the only way it can be effective stopped. But are people willing to go that far?
 

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You can't win a war against:

1. An idea;
2. Shiftable goal posts of the definition of Terrorism;
3. An enemy that has no face;

It will go on until there's a complete lockdown against being able to commit any sort of act of violence in public. You can't do that. You can't stop a guy walking into a public area with a concealed knife/gun and going crazy.

The only way you can do this is if you lock everything down into a Demolition Man-type scenario with x-ray cameras, everyone monitored and movements/purchases traced at all times. You can't have cash, either. You'd have to make every transaction traceable and digital.

For example, in this hypothetical monitored society. A man tries to buy, let's say, the ingredients to make a bomb. Every item he buys individually over a course of time is registered to his unique ID in a database. When certain suspicious items cluster, extra special attention is paid to this person. And a search of their domicile is performed.

Full lazer, infra-red, x-ray scan, like in Deus Ex. Or they could send in insect droids.

It's the only way it can be effective stopped. But are people willing to go that far?

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Exactly. But man, when people get shook, they give up those rights quick. I remember back in '05, after the bombings in London, there was a video of a female citizen saying, and I quote "We should give up some of our liberties for freedom".

:wtf:
 
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