Can someone explain this beatmaking "mistake" to me in more detail?

[TheDarceKnight]

So I'm a huge production nerd and I look for tons of samples but I don't actually make beats.

When Evidence says the beat for Crash was mistake, and had this to say about it:
Alchemist produced that one. If you’re a producer and you have a drum machine, to load a beat you load your instruments and then set a sequence. In history, as I understand it this also happened to Top Billin by Audio Two, sometimes you forget to erase your sequence before you load new instruments. So when you hit play, you get these new sounds that aren’t meant to be played in that sequence. That’s what happened with this beat. Alchemist loaded the wrong instruments to this sequence and this weird sh*t happened. At first I called it Accident , cause it wasn’t meant to be, and then as I started writing I called it Crash . Alchemist took the beat back and cleaned it up to make it work. But we took something that was an accident, put a lot of high speed chase music behind it and turned it into a chance for me to vent.

TL;DR: So does he mean Alc made a beat before this one, and whatever sequence he tapped out on the pads, he didn't erase after he was done? Then when he put in a new sample the previous beat's sequence started playing with the new sample in the MPC, and it came out sounding like this?

 

[wilburn burchette]

yeah you're spot on from the way evidence explained it. i remember reading that interview too, went straight back to listen to that song.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

yeah you're spot on from the way evidence explained it. i remember reading that interview too, went straight back to listen to that song.

So I'm guessing the chopped up little voices in the background are the accidental sequence, and the 16th note chops with the synthesizer sample is the part that Alc "cleaned up" ? Or is it impossible to tell which part is cleaned up and what part isn't?

Daps and rep. Thank you.

edit: I have to spread some more rep around 1st but I got you as soon as I can breh

 

[wilburn burchette]

So I'm guessing the chopped up little voices in the background are the accidental sequence, and the 16th note chops with the synthesizer sample is the part that Alc "cleaned up" ? Or is it impossible to tell which part is cleaned up and what part isn't?

Daps and rep. Thank you.

edit: I have to spread some more rep around 1st but I got you as soon as I can breh

i can't call it, possible the synth stabs had been another sample triggered originally as well. plus the horn chops and shyt in the hook. alc is a madman with the sound collage shyt, could be a totally different beat from the first "mistake" beat once he did whatever cleaning up.

 

[Payroll]

So I'm guessing the chopped up little voices in the background are the accidental sequence, and the 16th note chops with the synthesizer sample is the part that Alc "cleaned up" ? Or is it impossible to tell which part is cleaned up and what part isn't?

Daps and rep. Thank you.

edit: I have to spread some more rep around 1st but I got you as soon as I can breh

The vocal chops in the background definitely stick out ...but the whole thing sounds like he was lifting different elements from different records.

You should look up plunderphonics....

 

[wilburn burchette]

but the whole thing sounds like he was lifting different elements from different records.

that's the foundation of most of his beats

 

[GPBear]

For the record, that's not what happened in Top Billin.

The thing about Top Billin (if i recall) is they programmed the shyt completely wrong on accident. Not just substituting samples; the kick, hi-hat, and snare were like, switched places and then backwards. And they liked it. More akin to early D'angelo drums, where they're all off-beat, and when questlove asked the engineer how he did them like that, he said d'angelo just never read the manual for the drum machine so that's just how they came out.

 

[SagaAsad]

Your conclusion is pretty spot on. Alc uses the 2500 I believe. What I think Evidence was hitting at with cleaning up the project was probably going in and trimming sounds that were from the loaded sounds to fit whether it be note only, poly triggered sounds or mono one shots in the mpc. Most people tend to work with a set workflow on the mpc ie drums etc on bank A bank B and samples bass on C and D or something to that effect. Alc loading the instruments and them actually working with the sequence wouldn't be abnormal if he has some sort of workflow like that maybe having to change a kick to a snare or vice versa but for the most part any sounds and sequences you load will be at least playable.

 

[Mowgli]

Sounds like a mistake to me

 

[ig88]

Itd be like a fl studio song where you have multiple sounds wit same name and it loads up wrong ones.

Sometimes its interesting. Mostly its garbage. But ive had this happen once or twice.