Black Business and Black Politics - Why is our energy different?

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I’ve been really thinking about this and would like to know the Coli’s thoughts on this difference? I especially want to hear from ADOS supporters.

Business: Buy Black
Politics: Support Black Support whomever gives us the best deal

Black business is not a monolith. Black politics is not a monolith. Why would we blindly throw our support behind black businesses but not blindly throw our support behind black politicians?

I used to think like the OP. It was actually this year in conversations that I was convinced to still support black businesses, even in spite of, shytty owners, shytty service, or shytty product.

However, despite my own conversion, I don’t hold it against anyone else who may not be so inclined to put up with the extra bullshyt.

I just find it funny that the arguments put forth in support of black business are thrown out the window with respect to black politics.

It’s no longer supporting a candidate because they are black. It’s now supporting a candidate that will give us the best deal, whether white or black. The hypocrisy is just astounding.

 

[CoryMack]

Because we haven’t learned that the politics and business go hand in hand. We still really haven’t learned all that much about business over here either.

 

[Dwayne_Taylor]

To be fair theres a difference.

Supposedly supporting black business will enrich all black people via group economics.

While Supporting black politicans supposedly doesn't get us anything.

 

[Swirv]

The unity isn’t there. It’s hard to say. I support both in my community.

 

[invalid]

Set this up a bit differently.

The first point you make, you point out what supporting black business is suppose to do, in theory.

Supposedly supporting black business will enrich all black people via group economics.

You didn’t apply the same logic on the second point.

You’re not telling us what supporting black politicians is suppose to do, in theory.

You’re telling us what you believe supporting black politicians has done.

While Supporting black politicans supposedly doesn't get us anything.

There is a difference.

I can equally say that there is no evidence that support the notion that supporting black barbershops or hair salons has enriched us as a group despite the grooming/beauty industry possibly being the biggest industry in the black community.

 

[Captain Crunch]

You have a point OP
I try to specifically support ADOS businesses and institutions, but the support has to make sense.

For example, I have a bank account at a likely ADOS owned bank, but I had to take a bulk of my money out because of the low interest rates. I still have money in the account, but the money there is just a portion of my total money.

 

[invalid]

For example, I have a bank account at a likely ADOS owned bank, but I had to take a bulk of my money out because of the low interest rates. I still have money in the account, but the money there is just a portion of my total money.

Right. It has to make sense.

But this is also one area of support that I think we need to consider taking one for the team. Supporting a black bank means supporting business loans given to black entrepreneurs who may have gotten denied by white banks, it means supporting black homeownership, etc. It has a broader and more direct range in enriching the community. Just barely supporting black banks does us a bit of harm because it is directly proportionate to the types of investments that bank can make in it’s immediate community. I think this is one area we need to consider going all in here, in spite of possibly getting better returns elsewhere. We’re essentially doing the same with home ownership when we make the decision to buy in black neighborhoods when there’s a good chance our homes will see a higher appreciation at a faster rate if we brought in integrated or predominantly white areas.

 

[you're NOT "n!ggas"]

That wasn't the OP I was expecting so Imma say what I wanted then address the topic appropriately


My main beef with #ADOS as it pertains to us is they don't close the circle with black business/economics. Before the beef with non-"ADOS" and Pan Africanism, black entrepreneurship was the villain. We're supposed to be soooooo "self-interested" and "we never looked out for ourselves until #ADOS" but for years supporting/buying from black owned businesses was an organic campaign-- but the SAME PEOPLE who started the #ADOS movement have done their damndest to talk down the shyt. We don't have enough. That's not a real business. That business owner doesn't even have this degree, I went to Law School. etc. ... I mean damn are you SURE you this is about self interest?


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As for the OP, politicians' are in a different environment. They can be bought off, they usually have other constituents (who may vote MORE) to also worry about, the risk with losing their seat in election, etc. Business owner's concern is their own bottom line first, and ideally, their community second.

 

[IVS]

That wasn't the OP I was expecting so Imma say what I wanted then address the topic appropriately


My main beef with #ADOS as it pertains to us is they don't close the circle with black business/economics. Before the beef with non-"ADOS" and Pan Africanism, black entrepreneurship was the villain. We're supposed to be soooooo "self-interested" and "we never looked out for ourselves until #ADOS" but for years supporting/buying from black owned businesses was an organic campaign-- but the SAME PEOPLE who started the #ADOS movement have done their damndest to talk down the shyt. We don't have enough. That's not a real business. That business owner doesn't even have this degree, I went to Law School. etc. ... I mean damn are you SURE you this is about self interest?


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As for the OP, politicians' are in a different environment. They can be bought off, they usually have other constituents (who may vote MORE) to also worry about, the risk with losing their seat in election, etc. Business owner's concern is their own bottom line first, and ideally, their community second.

You are lying to yourself. They do not talk down on supporting black business. Their point is that supporting black business alone wont save us and we need reparations. And they are all for black folks organizing themselves and supporting one another, but without reparations it will be all for naught because the world is evolving quickly and we are so far behind in the race in regards to access to resources and control of industries.

You folks like to make up shyt to dislike ADOS for....its insane to me. I'm tired of you dishonest and disingenuous types. I know you have no true understanding of the world around you based upon the dumb shyt you just wrote.

 

[Neuromancer]

Interesting question. I think most people assume business owners by virtue of owning thier own buisness. A politician it is assumed is beholden to the majority as well as thier parties, lobbying groups, funders ect. While a buisness owner may have investors, It's the perception.

 

[you're NOT "n!ggas"]

You are lying to yourself. They do not talk down on supporting black business. Their point is that supporting black business alone wont save us and we need reparations. And they are all for black folks organizing themselves and supporting one another, but without reparations it will be all for naught because the world is evolving quickly and we are so far behind in the race in regards to access to resources and control of industries.

You folks like to make up shyt to dislike ADOS for....its insane to me. I'm tired of you dishonest and disingenuous types. I know you have no true understanding of the world around you based upon the dumb shyt you just wrote.

Yeah, I'm not here for that juelzing I'm not saying anything insane... they're socialists. Of course they don't like business. Unless it's those t-shirts they're pushing. Be sure to donate in the superchat... Muhfukkas make a killing in donations week in and week out telling black people they DON'T have money

 

[Wiseborn]

You need to put money on both businesses and politics if you want them to continue to serve you.

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

Once you have the businesses, you have the money to control the politicians. Every other group of people does this.

We have no power without the businesses.

But we still haven’t figured that out.

 

[IVS]

Yeah, I'm not here for that juelzing I'm not saying anything insane... they're socialists. Of course they don't like business. Unless it's those t-shirts they're pushing. Be sure to donate in the superchat... Muhfukkas make a killing in donations week in and week out telling black people they DON'T have money

You sound dumb again. When did they preach against business. You are making up shyt in your tiny mind.

 

[you're NOT "n!ggas"]

You sound dumb again. When did they preach against business. You are making up shyt in your tiny mind.

You sound like you can't get you don't have an argument and resorting to ad hominems When have the preached in favor of black business/entrepreneurs that aren't named Byron Allen. It's been a problem anytime an article comes out on black entrepreneurs/hip on multiple occasions, can't let that self esteem get TOO high


Yvette has said we don't have what it takes to be capitalists. If we don't have what it takes to be capitalists, then why would we be business owners, why would we support them, etc


Hell Dr. Claude Anderson preached entrepreneurship AND politics AND reparations and you see they're take(downs) on him.