Bischoff still being a weasel about the fault of Starrcade 97's finish

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Now Sting was a headcase... lol. Its everyone's fault but Bischoff. Silly old b*stard.
During a recent edition of his podcast (transcript via Wrestling Inc Eric Bischoff says Sting returned to WCW unmotivated, untanned, and out of shape, leadin to some changes at Starrcade 1997…

On Sting’s Condition at Starrcade 1997: “We knew what the finish was going into this thing, so there was no question about who was going to win and who was going to lose,” Bischoff recalled. “We’d known that. We’d known that for 12 months. The question was, ‘how do we get there?’, so Sting showed up in my dressing room. Hulk was already there and he walked in, and I don’t want to overdramatize this, and I’m also going to say I’m not going to share everything in this recall because some of the stuff is personal to Steve Borden, a.k.a. Sting. And since he [has] never shared it [publicly], it’s not up to me to do it. I’m just not going to do it, but I will give you as much information as I can. So Sting walks in and [Hogan] and I had the same reaction. We didn’t acknowledge it to each other, but we both had this similar reaction, which was, ‘wow, he doesn’t look very excited about this.’ Before we had one syllable of a conversation, about what the finish was going to be or how we were going to get there, Sting, during Sting’s walkout, he had the same lack of energy, or presence, is an even better way of saying it. It was almost as if he was only half there when he walked in the room. Now, Sting had, I think he has acknowledged in the past that he was going through a lot of personal things in his life at the time.”

On Sting Living The CrowGimmick: “I didn’t know as the whole Crow angle began, and the character just kind of showed up in the rafters, he didn’t really talk, and he didn’t really engage with anybody. Well, that wasn’t just the character. That was what was really going on with Steve Borden.” Bischoff added, “he was almost like a ghost. He was very similar to his character, believe it or not. So what we didn’t realize, what a lot of us didn’t know, was just the depth of the personal issues that he was having in his life. It wasn’t apparent to us.”

On The Planned Finish: “This is going to piss a lot of people off. The original finish was Sting was going to go over. How he was going to go over, that wasn’t my deal. I didn’t ever get involved, even at this, in the details of the finish. It just wasn’t my strength. I can’t emphasize that enough. And rather than engaging myself and involving myself in things that I knew I didn’t really know enough about, I let the talent have a lot of say, especially someone like Steve and Hulk Hogan.” Bischoff remembered, “we knew what the finish we wanted was before we even got to the building, before we got on a plane. We knew about it months in advance. We knew we wanted Sting to go over. How he went over, he had to go over strong. We had to end the story exactly the way the audience wanted it to end, on the highest note possible. That was the finish going in. How we were going to get there on a step-by-step basis, I couldn’t tell you because I wasn’t involved.”

On Sting’s Mindset: “Now, in terms of the changes in light of really feeling and believing, and as much as I liked Sting as a human being, as a friend, as a performer, as one of the most loyal WCW talents on the roster, he wasn’t up for it,” Bischoff stated. It’s like he… I’m going to try to do an adequate job of explaining this without overstating it… it’s almost like he didn’t believe it was actually going to happen, long, long, long, months ago, maybe when the whole angle first started. I’m not saying he felt this way. I’m saying this is the impression I had. I’ll speak for myself. The impression I had is that through this whole big build up, he never believed it was going to happen. He believed he was going to get screwed out of an opportunity and he quit six months before this event. He quit caring. He quit taking care of himself. He quit preparing. He showed up with no energy with no anticipation, no enthusiasm. It was just like, ‘okay, you guys are going to f–k me, so let’s get it over with.’ That was the vibe I got.”
 

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Yeah......that whole diatribe he spit was ridiculous :snoop:

Dude was acting like they hadn't seen Sting the ENTIRE month leading up to that shyt, just to wait and use that weak ass excuse of him not being "tan" and "in shape" :beli:

Hogan clearly fukked that shyt up whether he will admit or not.
 

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Yeah......that whole diatribe he spit was ridiculous :snoop:

Dude was acting like they hadn't seen Sting the ENTIRE month leading up to that shyt, just to wait and use that weak ass excuse of him not being "tan" and "in shape" :beli:

Hogan clearly fukked that shyt up whether he will admit or not.
Why tf would someone who spent over a year in silence and seclusion be tan? :dahell: Bischoff is as big an idiot as Vince
 

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Now Sting was a headcase... lol. Its everyone's fault but Bischoff. Silly old b*stard.
The impression I had is that through this whole big build up, he never believed it was going to happen. He believed he was going to get screwed out of an opportunity and he quit six months before this event. He quit caring. He quit taking care of himself. He quit preparing. He showed up with no energy with no anticipation, no enthusiasm. It was just like, ‘okay, you guys are going to f–k me, so let’s get it over with.’ That was the vibe I got.”

BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU GUYS DID!:what:
 

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I listened to the podcast and I think he’s subtly saying Sting had drug or alcohol issues at the time.

The part about Sting not tanning was stupid, because it didn’t fit his Crow character to be out on the beach or in a tanning bed at all. But he did say Sting wasn’t taking care of himself in a vague way that suggested maybe drugs or alcohol, and this is right around the time before Sting became a born again Christian...
 

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Most likely Steve heard what HOgan was gonna do through the grapevine.
Hime saying he and hogan saw Steve wasn't right is all I need to know, this is hogan burying someone like usual
 

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I just wish the Stinger caught on and kicked out when he realized the count by Patrick was regular speed :mjcry:

That was a clean victory for the Hulkster :mjcry:

HitGOAT to the rescue though :blessed:
 

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I listened to the podcast and I think he’s subtly saying Sting had drug or alcohol issues at the time.

The part about Sting not tanning was stupid, because it didn’t fit his Crow character to be out on the beach or in a tanning bed at all. But he did say Sting wasn’t taking care of himself in a vague way that suggested maybe drugs or alcohol, and this is right around the time before Sting became a born again Christian...
That didn't happen until late 98 after he took his sabbatical.

And Sting was on fire that whole year. Not like he was Scott Hall or something.
 

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That didn't happen until late 98 after he took his sabbatical.

And Sting was on fire that whole year. Not like he was Scott Hall or something.

If he was born again in late 98 and was living demonically before then, why would you rule out 97? That'd make perfect sense as a time when he'd be doing non-Christian stuff. He might just mean Sting was generally depressed or severely stressed out personally or something, but it seemed more to me like he was suggesting drugs or alcohol.

I could see the disappointment of Sting not working out and being personally distant or worn out after all that buildup, but I think they still had to go through with a clean finish. The fans would've still been satisfied.

I'm not sure I buy the Hogan narrative, because the Sting rematch and him losing both was already a given. The same people will sell you on Nash politicking or even booking himself to beat Goldberg, when that few weeks there put him a worse place than he was before it.
 

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Demonic compared to drinkers like Hogan and Bischoff? And why hasn't SHOOT KINGS like Hall, Nash, or Bret ever brought this up? Lol.
 
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