Biology majors, nerds, e-scientist etc...someone school me on the origins of STDS

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Thankfully I've never gotten any stds, but I'm just curious as to how they came out, were they always here? and if not then how it they originate?

could I get a definitive history, did our ancestors like Homo erectus also have STDs or is this just a homo sapien thing?

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Thankfully I've never gotten any but I'm just curious as to how they came out, were they always here? and if not then how it they originate?

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:rudy: What kind of question is this? Some come from bacteria, some come from viruses, some come from protozoans, some come from fungi, and they evolved like everything else. Sex is mixture of two peoples' bodily fluids, so obviously it's a very efficient route to transmit these organisms.
 

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more detail please, so they've been around since the "Lucy" days also?


so basically the first std came about just because a nikka was dirty and didn't wash his ass? :heh:

This is like asking where colds come from or where the flu came from. Some people get diseases and they get transmitted to other people in different ways (air, food, on objects, etc.). Exhanging bodily fluids is just another way to transmit a disease.

And yes, animals get STDs. Chlamydia is a common STD that lots of other animals (including birds and reptiles) besides humans can get.
 

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Apparently herpes has been around since the roman times days...so yeah these diseases have been around a long time. They just became a lot more common these days because everybodies fukkin each other. As for the exact origin...I'm not sure they've even been traced.
 

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This is like asking where colds come from or where the flu came from. Some people get diseases and they get transmitted to other people in different ways (air, food, on objects, etc.). Exhanging bodily fluids is just another way to transmit a disease.

And yes, animals get STDs. Chlamydia is a common STD that lots of other animals (including birds and reptiles) besides humans can get.


Who was the first nikka b and how did he get it

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if they were to quarantine every person with an STD on an isolated island would STDs eventually come back into existence?
 

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wtf, we don't have detailed history on who was first and who wasn't. a good amount of these diseases are blood borne and transmitted. well the only way to get things by blood is by IV transfusion and IV drugs, both of which have become more sterile over time. When you transmit disease sexually, you are also likely to get your local symptoms.

90% of the population is thought be seropositive for HSV1 (herpes simplex type 1) and a decent amount for HSV2. Traditionally HSV1 is acquired by young kids in school or so -> cold sores. HSV2 is more sexually attributed, but both can be contracted sexually. HSV2 is therefore associated with with the ulcerating painful vesicles of your genitalia , however, because of blowjobs, more and more people have been mixing the two up and you see HSV1 in your pubic area and HSV2 in your labial (lips) area.

so yea, things jump around. wouldn't really worry about it, we know how to tackle most
 

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I see there are nikkas who got burnt 1 starring the thread n shyt :smh:

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People 1-starred the thread because it was stupid as fukk. It was equivalent of you saying "Hey I see all these different animals that live in jungles, where did they all come from?" STDs are just diseases that happen to occur as a result of different organisms, many of which are from entirely different kingdoms of life, are transferred between hosts via the exchange of bodily fluids.

If you're this scientifically illiterate, you need to stop making fun of creationists all the time because you're not much better.
 

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People 1-starred the thread because it was stupid as fukk. It was equivalent of you saying "Hey I see all these different animals outside and on TV, where did they all come from?" STDs are just diseases that happen to occur as a result of different organisms, many of which are from entirely different kingdoms of life, and transferred between hosts via the exchange of bodily fluids.

If you're this scientifically illiterate, you need to stop making fun of creationists all the time because you're not much better.

All I wanted is a detailed explanation of how they originated, not how they get passed on. "Happen to occur" doesn't explain anything. Things just don't pop out of thin air, don't get mad at me because you don't know or either and/or are too lazy to answer a question.

I understand that parasitic diseases are living organisms,(and Honestly I'm curious to know how those originate also...I guess technically all living organism are parasites tho? So why differentiate and criminalize certain organisms?) do STDs fall under that category also? I don't know, I'm not an expert on STDs b, and I never claimed to be a biology expert, shyts foreign to me. I'm a noob

If they always existed then does that mean Dinosaurs had STDs also?

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The only thing worse than being a creationist is to claim things "just occur" without giving any detailed explanation. Admitting that you don't know is a lot more respectable IMO, and I'm not afraid to do so. Which is why the title of the thread has "school me" in it. :hmm:
 

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All I wanted is a detailed explanation of how they originated, not how they get passed on. "Happen to occur" doesn't explain anything. Things just don't pop out of thin air, don't get mad at me because you don't know or either and/or are too lazy to answer a question.

I understand that bacteria and parasitic diseases are living organism, do STDs fall under that category also? I don't know, I'm not an expert on STDs b, shyts foreign to me

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You sound ridiculous because you're casting them under a blanket characteristic of STDs, as if STD is taxonomic group of organisms. STDs are simply diseases that are caused by organisms infecting cells after being transferred through sex. The fact that they can be transferred through sex isn't some unique evolutionary path specific to only a group of organisms. Sex is just an easy way to spread communicable diseases. The common cold or the flu can technically be STDs because they can be transmitted through sex. If you want to know the evolutionary origins of all the various viruses, bacteria, insects, protozoans, and fungi that cause all the various STDs, you should research them and you'll find they all have entirely different origins. Asking "where did STDs come from" is like asking "where did animals who swim in water come from?"
 
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OP.. there is some literature, which I vaguely remember on the subject.

Syphilis apparently came from the Native Americans, and they were immune to it.

As for the other ones, I don't think it's very hard to imagine situations where they were created.

HPV: I believe it can only infect Humans and Apes, so I'd bet that it's been around for a very very long time. Notice how warts seem to cluster around your hands and feet? I think thats an important clue. Perhaps, that is indicative of its adaption to early hominds that still had fur.

As humans we use our hands to have sex. Maybe there was just a chance occurrence of the virus mutating to survive in the Genital region because of hand-to-genital contact, and then it specialized in that region.
 
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