Biden raises firefighter pay as U.S. braces for wildfires

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less than $13/hour to fight fires?! :mjtf:

Hard fukking work too and people get hurt or die all the time (not even necessarily in fire - from falling down hills, getting hit by trees, crashing on sketchy roads to/from sites, etc.)

The only upside is that if you're really on a fire then I think you get paid round-the-clock even when sleeping so the overtime is pretty incredible. But they deserve it cause they are out there in the shyt around the clock. And when they're not on a fire, sometimes they can goes weeks without work, just waiting. With global warming that might be less of a problem now.
 

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What does it say about Americans(if anything) that we’ll work these jobs for low pay, but wont pick fruit/ag labor for even higher wages…:jbhmm:




This is great though. :ehh:
 

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What does it say about Americans(if anything) that we’ll work these jobs for low pay, but wont pick fruit/ag labor for even higher wages…:jbhmm:




This is great though. :ehh:
They aren't as low payed as you'd think, but they deserve the raise.

REGULAR TOUR OF DUTY
A firefighter’s regular tour of duty determines the method of computing rates of pay for covered
firefighters. Most firefighters have a regular tour of duty consisting of three 24-hour shifts per week

which includes periods of actual work and designated standby time. While in a standby status,
firefighters are free to eat, sleep, and engage in other personal activities, but are confined to the
worksite and must remain in a state of readiness to perform actual work.

Some firefighters (e.g., fire inspectors) have a regular tour of duty that includes a basic 40-hour
workweek plus a standby shift of 13 or more hours per week. This is called an embedded schedule.
Note: The Defense Civilian Pay System accepts only specific firefighter schedules.

COMPUTING BASIC PAY FOR FIREFIGHTERS WITHOUT A BASIC-40 WORKWEEK
Firefighters with a regular tour of duty that does not include a basic 40-hour workweek are paid a
firefighter hourly rate of basic pay for the first 106 nonovertime hours in the biweekly pay period. The
firefighter hourly rate of basic pay is computed by dividing the annual rate of basic pay by 2,756 hours.
(The 2756-hour factor is derived by multiplying the number of weeks in a year (52) by the FLSA weekly
overtime standard for firefighters (53 hours), which yields the number of nonovertime hours in a year
for a typical full-time firefighter).
Example 1: A nonexempt GS-7, step 1, firefighter in the RUS locality pay area has a
regular tour of duty of 144 hours in the biweekly pay period. His annual rate of basic pay
is $41,365. What is the firefighter’s hourly rate of basic pay and biweekly rate?
Salary: $41,365/2756 = $15.01 (firefighter hourly rate of basic pay)
$15.01 x 106 nonovertime hours = $1,591.06 (biweekly rate of basic pay)
The remaining 38 hours (144 hours – 106 hours) are overtime hours.


COMPUTING BASIC PAY FOR “40+FIREFIGHTERS”
Dual divisors apply to firefighters with a regular tour of duty that includes a basic 40-hour workweek.
The 2087-hour factor is used to compute the GS hourly rate of basic pay for hours within the basic 40-
hour workweek (or 80-hour biweekly pay period), and the 2756-hour factor is used to compute the
firefighter hourly rate of basic pay for nonovertime hours (106 hours -80 hours) in excess of 80 hours
biweekly.
Example 2: A nonexempt GS-8, step 2, fire inspector has a regular tour of duty of 118
hours biweekly that includes a basic 40-hour workweek. His annual rate of basic pay is
$47,337. Determine the fire inspector’s hourly rates of basic pay and biweekly rate?
Salary: $47,337/2087 = $22.68 (GS hourly rate of basic pay)
$47,337 /2756 = $17.18 (firefighter hourly rate of basic pay)
Basic Pay 1st 80 $22.68 x 80 hours = $1,814.40
Basic Pay 2nd 26 $17.18 x 26 (106 – 80) hours = $ 446.68
Biweekly Rate of Basic Pay $2,261.08

COMPUTING OVERTIME PAY
For exempt and nonexempt firefighters compensated under subpart M, overtime work means officially
ordered or approved work in excess of 106 hours in a biweekly pay period. To derive overtime pay for
any firefighter, multiple the applicable overtime hourly rate by all overtime hours in the pay period.
To determine the overtime hourly rate of pay for all FLSA-covered (nonexempt) firefighters, multiply
the firefighter hourly rate of basic pay by 1.5, regardless of the type of work schedule. For example, the
overtime hourly for the fire inspector in example 2 is $25.77 ($17.18 x 1.5 = $25.77). There is no
overtime pay cap for FLSA-covered (nonexempt) firefighters.
The overtime hourly rate of pay for FLSA-exempt firefighters is 1.5 times the firefighter hourly rate of
basic pay except that exempt firefighters are still subject to the same overtime cap as all GS exempt
employees. For those exempt firefighters whose firefighter hourly rate of basic pay exceeds the hourly
rate of basic pay for GS-10, step 1, (using the 2,087 factor), the overtime hourly rate is equal to the
greater of (1) 1 ½ times the GS-10, step 1, rate or (2) the individual’s own firefighter hourly rate of basic
pay. (See 5 CFR 550.113(e) (2).)
Example 3: The annual rate of pay for an exempt GS-12, step 3, fire chief in the Albany
locality pay area is $79,034. The annual rate of basic pay for GS-10, step 1, in the same
locality pay area is $56,266. What is the fire chief’s overtime rate?
Salary: $79,034/2756 = $28.68 (firefighter’s hourly rate of pay)
GS-10, step 1, hourly rate = $26.96 ($56,266/2087) Albany locality rate
GS-10, step 1, overtime hourly rate = $40.44 ($26.96 x 1.5)
Because the firefighter’s hourly rate of $28.68 is higher than the hourly rate for GS-10, step 1, $26.96,
the firefighter is subject to the overtime pay cap. Therefore, the fire chief is entitled to the greater of the
overtime hourly rate for GS-10, step 1, or his firefighter hourly rate of basic pay. In this case, the GS-10,
step 1, overtime rate of $40.44 ($26.96 x 1.5) exceeds his firefighter hourly rate of $28.68. Therefore,
the fire chief will be paid for overtime work at the overtime rate of $40.44. (See 5 CFR 550.113(e)
 

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California doesn't have enough inmates for free wildfire fighting because they released them all due to covid so now they realize they have to pay people

If women were at home where they belonged we wouldn't need firefighters because homemakers could rake and vacuum the forests like they used to.
 

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What does it say about Americans(if anything) that we’ll work these jobs for low pay, but wont pick fruit/ag labor for even higher wages…:jbhmm:




This is great though. :ehh:

First off, the #'s for staffing firefighting are 2-3 orders of magnitude lower than the #'s needed to staff agriculture. Somewhere around 0.1% of agricultural workers could fulfill the entire low-level forest firefighter demand.

Second, I don't think agricultural work is higher wages than firefighting. Look what I said about the hours worked. If you're out there fighting a real fire for a week or more, you're getting paid 24 hours a day which results in a ridiculous amount of overtime pay. It's completely justified cause they have to be out there 24/7 and it's a really hard life for that week, but you can't compare the pay just hour to hour.

Also, of course, there are people who will do those jobs despite the risks and low pay out of a sense of adventure, a love of the wilderness, or the feeling that they're doing a good deed and saving homes and lives. It's a bit tougher to maintain that energy while picking tomatoes unless you have incredible mental fortitude.
 

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What does it say about Americans(if anything) that we’ll work these jobs for low pay, but wont pick fruit/ag labor for even higher wages…:jbhmm:




This is great though. :ehh:

Nobody makes movies about the brave strawberry picker that runs into burning buildings to save children.

It's a dangerous job, but they can do a lot of good.
 

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I knew you weren't kidding but my point is that maybe we shouldn't rely on Big Government

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