Biden: Obama considering "Executive Order" To Deal with Guns

[ROFL_GUY]

Vice President Joe Biden revealed that President Barack Obama might use an executive order to deal with guns.









"The president is going to act," said Biden, giving some comments to the press before a meeting with victims of gun violence. "There are executives orders, there's executive action that can be taken. We haven't decided what that is yet. But we're compiling it all with the help of the attorney general and the rest of the cabinet members as well as legislative action that we believe is required."



does he realize how this outcome will play out? interesting times

 

[Real]

Vice President Joe Biden revealed that President Barack Obama might use an executive order to deal with guns.


Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns - YouTube






"The president is going to act," said Biden, giving some comments to the press before a meeting with victims of gun violence. "There are executives orders, there's executive action that can be taken. We haven't decided what that is yet. But we're compiling it all with the help of the attorney general and the rest of the cabinet members as well as legislative action that we believe is required."



does he realize how this outcome will play out? interesting times

Aint like he's got another term. Might as well go for broke

 

[ROFL_GUY]

Aint like he's got another term. Might as well go for broke

the american populace is laready a powdeer keg.. we are divided and this maybe the tipping point..

 

[ROFL_GUY]

so do you support his. if it comes to pass?

 

[Rapmastermind]

If he does this it won't be a good look. His best bet is to do it in congress. Middle America ain't having it and it will cause a huge legal war with the constitution. He better not do it. Take your case to congress and get the votes.

 

[CASHAPP]

If he does this it won't be a good look. His best bet is to do it in congress. Middle America ain't having it and it will cause a huge legal war with the constitution. He better not do it. Take your case to congress and get the votes.

Its going to be both Congress legislation and he is going to add in his own executive order no matter the outcome, so the plan is successful as possible.

I just can't figure out which part of the plan he would make the executive order for himself. I could see him repealing that idiotic law he signed that allowed people to take guns into national parks.



But yeah like some people are saying, I'm telling you this is going to end up being a big part of his legacy and will end up impressing liberals. We are going to see a sharp decline in suicide rates....watch.

 

[BlvdBrawler]

This mfer better not...

 

[ROFL_GUY]

Executive Order power was never established as a means of setting national policy or major issues of law/regulation.

That's the tool of a tyrant not an elected leader.

Those were meant to give the President a means to handle housekeeping issues or matters outside the usual duties of Congress. Obama has used few compared to past Presidents but he's using them in a way past ones haven't generally dared attempt getting away with.

He isn't even inagurated to his second term and already he's making threats about going around Congress (The point HE uses for EO power) and doing things unilaterally. I thought we elected a President, not a King. Enough with the Royal Decrees. If he can't get it done INSIDE THE SYSTEM it probably means on a given issue, not enough of this nation agree with him to get it done. That isn't a problem. That's HOW IT'S SUPPOSED to work.

 

[No1]

Executive Order power was never established as a means of setting national policy or major issues of law/regulation.

That's the tool of a tyrant not an elected leader.

Those were meant to give the President a means to handle housekeeping issues or matters outside the usual duties of Congress. Obama has used few compared to past Presidents but he's using them in a way past ones haven't generally dared attempt getting away with.

He isn't even inagurated to his second term and already he's making threats about going around Congress (The point HE uses for EO power) and doing things unilaterally. I thought we elected a President, not a King. Enough with the Royal Decrees. If he can't get it done INSIDE THE SYSTEM it probably means on a given issue, not enough of this nation agree with him to get it done. That isn't a problem. That's HOW IT'S SUPPOSED to work.

Typical boring general platitude that ignores reality. You know how many things the majority of the public support that won't get through Congress and can't get through Congress? Let's start with the public option on his Healthcare bill. Try again.

 

[ROFL_GUY]

more deflecting ..

 

[Starman]

Typical boring general platitude that ignores reality. You know how many things the majority of the public support that won't get through Congress and can't get through Congress? Let's start with the public option on his Healthcare bill. Try again.

So, the president should be limited by what? Anything at all?

 

[Mowgli]

Typical boring general platitude that ignores reality. You know how many things the majority of the public support that won't get through Congress and can't get through Congress? Let's start with the public option on his Healthcare bill. Try again.

Whats the reality?

 

[Type Username Here]

Obama is going to ovestep his constitutional boundaries? Again?

What an absolute shocker.

 

[No1]

So, the president should be limited by what? Anything at all?

I didn't comment on what the president should be limited by at all. I haven't seen you post in a bit but I know you're a smart guy. I specifically bolded what I was referring to, and I said nothing about presidential limits. All I ever try to do is make people make better arguments.

If you're going to argue against the president's use of the executive order, you better do it on constitutional grounds and not using some weak speech that plays well to people with simplistic notions of American democracy and ignorance of the political process. Which is why I gave the specific example of his healthcare, public option. Why? Because it's a clear example of "more than enough people agreeing with him to get something done," and it still not getting done. Unless of course you believe that we intended for more or less 2/3 of Senate votes being required to pass bills.

Whats the reality?

The reality is what I said above. As far as executive orders go, as usual, people are going nuts before even understanding. This order is a presidential policy directive that implements or interprets a federal statue, a constitutional provision or treaty. So before people go nuts, I'd suggest they actually wait to see what how he intends to use the EO and what it would be interpreting. But I guess I'm old school and I don't react to vague allusions and every threat thrown out amid negotiations by a Washington veteran with 30 yrs. of experience on gun issues like Biden.

 

[Mowgli]

I didn't comment on what the president should be limited by at all. I haven't seen you post in a bit but I know you're a smart guy. I specifically bolded what I was referring to, and I said nothing about presidential limits. All I ever try to do is make people make better arguments.

If you're going to argue against the president's use of the executive order, you better do it on constitutional grounds and not using some weak speech that plays well to people with simplistic notions of American democracy and ignorance of the political process. Which is why I gave the specific example of his healthcare, public option. Why? Because it's a clear example of "more than enough people agreeing with him to get something done," and it still not getting done. Unless of course you believe that we intended for more or less 2/3 of Senate votes being required to pass bills.


The reality is what I said above. As far as executive orders go, as usual, people are going nuts before even understanding. This order is a presidential policy directive that implements or interprets a federal statue, a constitutional provision or treaty. So before people go nuts, I'd suggest they actually wait to see what how he intends to use the EO and what it would be interpreting. But I guess I'm old school and I don't react to vague allusions and every threat thrown out amid negotiations by a Washington veteran with 30 yrs. of experience on gun issues like Biden.

If they ban assault rifles im voting republican next election. These dems wanna be your fukkin daddy when you dont even want them to. Like no im good dawg seriously but here they come

*no no i have to protect you from nerds like adam lanza*

Nah seriously dawg ima just cop a rifle and some pistols and give lanza that work if its on like that.

*no no you shouldnt do that, let me protect you. I'll save you. If i let you have guns well more lanzas are going to show up*

Someones in Obamas ear making him look like a suckuh again.

Really shuckin n jivin out there.