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Brethren and brehettes, my fiancee and I have been living together for about 3 years and she's only eats poultry, seafood, fish, etc. Me, I like my burgers, etc. And it has worked for us. She cooks her fish, chicken; I- steak, meatballs (pause). But over the last couple of months, I realized its wasteful for us to make separate meals. She makes them all now:lolbron: and its been cool.

Just last week, I had an hamburger and realized my stomach may not be built for that life anymore:to:. Intestines cleared out like:whoo:. I don't trip over not having any cow but, damn, now it may not even be an option. Anyone else been through this?
 

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your body aint used to eating the portion size of beef that used to be normal for you also you ate ground beef which is fatty and could give you digestive issues anyways
 

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your body aint used to eating the portion size of beef that used to be normal for you also you ate ground beef which is fatty and could give you digestive issues anyways

Gotcha. I want to get back. What cut and portion size should I start with?
 

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My dads been having this problem...he can't let go of the red meat :ohlawd: He has been doing okay with having ground turkey as substitute if seasoned WELL, but nothing compares to beef with him lol

The only beef I have ate for the past 5 years now has been on fast food burgers. I've adjusted quite well to it.
 

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:dwillhuh: Explain this. People always say that but they never elaborate.

I'm trying to stop eating meat all together. There's tons of studies that show vegetarians live longer healthier lives than meat eaters.


Here's an article about red meat being bad for your health.
All red meat is bad for you, new study says - Los Angeles Times
said:
All red meat is risky, a study finds
Eating any amount or type increased the chances of early death among adults tracked more than 20 years.
March 13, 2012|Eryn Brown

any amount and any type -- appears to significantly increase the risk of premature death, according to a long-range study that examined the eating habits and health of more than 110,000 adults for more than 20 years.

For instance, adding just one 3-ounce serving of unprocessed red meat -- picture a piece of steak no bigger than a deck of cards -- to one's daily diet was associated with a 13% greater chance of dying during the course of the study.

For The Record
Los Angeles Times Thursday, March 15, 2012 Home Edition Main News Part A Page 4 News Desk 1 inches; 41 words Type of Material: Correction
Red meat: An article in the March 13 LATExtra section about a study linking red meat consumption to an increased risk of premature death said that preservatives like nitrates probably contributed to the danger. It should have included nitrites as well.

Even worse, adding an extra daily serving of processed red meat, such as a hot dog or two slices of bacon, was linked to a 20% higher risk of death during the study.

"Any red meat you eat contributes to the risk," said An Pan, a postdoctoral fellow at the Harvard School of Public Health in Boston and lead author of the study, published online Monday in the Archives of Internal Medicine.

Crunching data from thousands of questionnaires that asked people how frequently they ate a variety of foods, the researchers also discovered that replacing red meat with other foods seemed to reduce mortality risk for study participants.

Eating a serving of nuts instead of beef or pork was associated with a 19% lower risk of dying during the study. The team said choosing poultry or whole grains as a substitute was linked with a 14% reduction in mortality risk; low-fat dairy or legumes, 10%; and fish, 7%.

Previous studies had associated red meat consumption with diabetes, heart disease and cancer, all of which can be fatal. Scientists aren't sure exactly what makes red meat so dangerous, but the suspects include the iron and saturated fat in beef, pork and lamb, the nitrates used to preserve them, and the chemicals created by high-temperature cooking.

The Harvard researchers hypothesized that eating red meat would also be linked to an overall risk of death from any cause, Pan said. And the results suggest they were right: Among the 37,698 men and 83,644 women who were tracked, as meat consumption increased, so did mortality risk.

In separate analyses of processed and unprocessed meats, the group found that both types appear to hasten death. Pan said that at the outset, he and his colleagues had thought it likely that only processed meat posed a health danger.

Carol Koprowski, a professor of preventive medicine at USC's Keck School of Medicine who wasn't involved in the research, cautioned that it can be hard to draw specific conclusions from a study like this because there can be a lot of error in the way diet information is recorded in food frequency questionnaires, which ask subjects to remember past meals in sometimes grueling detail.

But Pan said the bottom line was that there was no amount of red meat that's good for you.

"If you want to eat red meat, eat the unprocessed products, and reduce it to two or three servings a week," he said. "That would have a huge impact on public health."

A majority of people in the study reported that they ate an average of at least one serving of meat per day.

Pan said that he eats one or two servings of red meat per week, and that he doesn't eat bacon or other processed meats.

Cancer researcher Lawrence H. Kushi of the Kaiser Permanente Division of Research in Oakland said that groups putting together dietary guidelines were likely to pay attention to the findings in the study.

"There's a pretty strong supposition that eating red meat is important -- that it should be part of a healthful diet," said Kushi, who was not involved in the study. "These data basically demonstrate that the less you eat, the better."

UC San Francisco researcher and vegetarian diet advocate Dr. Dean Ornish said he gleaned a hopeful message from the study.

"Something as simple as a meatless Monday can help," he said. "Even small changes can make a difference."

Additionally, Ornish said, "What's good for you is also good for the planet."

In an editorial that accompanied the study, Ornish wrote that a plant-based diet could help cut annual healthcare costs from chronic diseases in the U.S., which exceed $1 trillion. Shrinking the livestock industry could also reduce greenhouse gas emissions and halt destruction of forests for pastures, he wrote.
 

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all this i don't eat beef I eat poultry fish shyt is for the birds:aicmon:

if you really wanna get down to healthy living it is not necessarily about cutting out one type of food or the other.

In a natural setting you wouldn't eat meat every day, even if you were a farmer... U gotta raise the cattle and slaughter ever so often. Even if you're a hunter you don't eat meat EVERY DAY.

Traditionally man used to have meat as a FEASTING food, meaning we ate in on bigger occasions and such not necessarily every day.

A real balanced diet should consist of more grains/green etc than meat. but meat is still an option. Instead o eating beef 5 times a week u eat it once or twice, have other protein options more often like beans etc. same with chicken and fish. Eat more eggs than chicken...

The most hazadous thing to our health right now and why most people go vegan is because we cannot fully be sure of how these animals are raised. chickens mature in a matter of weeks and end up on store shelves, that AIN'T NATURAL AT ALL. THE ONLY reason I would ever stop eating beef, poultry etc is because of this and it is why I'm very selective on where I get my meat (n/h)

Animals are born sickly and die then we sell em in the market. Well when man hunted we knew how to tell when an animal was diseased and inspected our food before consumption, now we leave this in the hands of our suppliers who are failing us. In a perfect world we would all be eating free range grain feed animals and not as often as we do. Balance is the key to life but man only wants convenience which is about excess...
 

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all this i don't eat beef I eat poultry fish shyt is for the birds:aicmon:

if you really wanna get down to healthy living it is not necessarily about cutting out one type of food or the other.

In a natural setting you wouldn't eat meat every day, even if you were a farmer... U gotta raise the cattle and slaughter ever so often. Even if you're a hunter you don't eat meat EVERY DAY.

Traditionally man used to have meat as a FEASTING food, meaning we ate in on bigger occasions and such not necessarily every day.

A real balanced diet should consist of more grains/green etc than meat. but meat is still an option. Instead o eating beef 5 times a week u eat it once or twice, have other protein options more often like beans etc. same with chicken and fish. Eat more eggs than chicken...

The most hazadous thing to our health right now and why most people go vegan is because we cannot fully be sure of how these animals are raised. chickens mature in a matter of weeks and end up on store shelves, that AIN'T NATURAL AT ALL. THE ONLY reason I would ever stop eating beef, poultry etc is because of this and it is why I'm very selective on where I get my meat (n/h)

Animals are born sickly and die then we sell em in the market. Well when man hunted we knew how to tell when an animal was diseased and inspected our food before consumption, now we leave this in the hands of our suppliers who are failing us. In a perfect world we would all be eating free range grain feed animals and not as often as we do. Balance is the key to life but man only wants convenience which is about excess...

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Red meat's not good for you anyway.

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Says who?
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Just saw your link, but when I post links stating the opposite or inconclusive results wht do you do then?
http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/features/the-truth-about-red-meat
But many studies have found similar links. Another one that followed more than 72,000 women for 18 years found that those who ate a Western-style diet high in red and processed meats, desserts, refined grains, and French fries had an increased risk of heart disease, cancer, and death from other causes.
I'm sure desserts and fries and refined grains had nothing to do with those increased risks.

Another thing you have to take into consideration is how this data was collected. Were the meals these people ate tracked on a daily basis for a period of years? I highly doubt it but of course I'll never know the answer to that, however I suspect they just asked people what they ate.

You also have to figure that most people eating the red meat aren't eating sides of steamed or sautéed veggies. Most likely it's fries, mac n cheese, and other deep fried shyt.

Have you looked into Paleo eating? Google and read stories of people eating a healthy diet which includes lots of red meat and how it improved their health.

First, the study: Researchers at the Harvard School of Public Health analyzed epidemiological data from two studies of more than 120,000 people. Researchers found that eating a serving of unprocessed red meat was correlated with a 13 percent increased risk of mortality during the study periods; for processed red meats (bacon, bologna, Spam), the risk climbed to 20 percent.

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But to say that red meat caused the increase in risk is overstepping the data. The study only shows an association between red meat and death. To prove causation, you need controlled experiments—which researchers have, in fact, conducted. Their findings: “Whenever studies have looked at the cause-and-effect of eating red meat, there’s never any difference in health outcomes between red meat and chicken or fish,” says Michael Roussell, Ph.D., author of The Six Pillars of Nutrition: A Simple Diet Solution for Permanent Weight Loss, Better Health, and a Longer Life. (Roussell’s recent 2012 study looked at red meat in a healthy diet and found it actually improves cholesterol levels.)

But what about saturated fat? Well-designed studies have cleared saturated fat’s connection to heart disease—something we’ve been saying for years. And beef isn’t even one of the top five sources of saturated fat in the American diet anyway.
http://news.menshealth.com/new-bs-study-red-meat-will-kill-you/2012/03/14/
 
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