Beat Club WPA #3: RZA & the Art of Arranging Loops into Full Beats #tunnelgang

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Respect to @LauderdaleBoss and @doublenegative for making this all possible, first and foremost :wow:

By now RZA's place as a legendary producer and a legendary figure in hip hop period is already cemented. So no need to rehash his accomplishments, just google him if necessary. :usure:

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When you talk about the RZA you could talk about a lot of things: his use of karate flick clips, strong sense of groove in his drums, his sample choices and chopping style w/ the soulful vocal bursts and the sudden, abrupt looping style in the middle of phrases; his use of complete "switch ups" in beats, introducing a completely new loop idea or sample. He was great at a few things. He's the RZA. But What I want to take a look at now, from a production perspective is RZA's arrangement techniques on some of his classics, because even though some of it is now more than 20 yrs old, and production techniques and technology have evolved to crazy levels, the production still stands up to the test of time. Id say RZA's arrangement techniques are probably the most overlooked and under rated elements of his style.

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Coincidentally, the arrangement is to me maybe the most challenging part of making a beat, and listening to some of the other guys on here, I can see I'm not the only one who struggles here. A lot of us can make a dope 2 or 4 bar loop, but can you make it interesting for 3 minutes straight though? That right there is what separates beat makers from producers, and many discarded MPCs and cracked copies of FL Studio litter the path on the way from from dope loops to complete full dope beats.

So to study the RZA and this album specifically should hold some gems for us all.



After many listens and various studies on the art of arranging music I've noticed one thing about many of his classic productions that keeps it fresh until this day. Listen closely and you'll notice, very rarely will he let a track go 4 bars without introducing some new element, sound or other event into the track. I can't lay everything out for you, but listen and see what you notice. Every 4 bars or so he's doing something, whether it's dropping something out or bringing something in, there's a feeling like the beat is alive. No I mean literally, It actually feels at certain points like he's just freaking the beat live, almost like he's DJing the beat, with the different elements. Here, he's got a couple of variation on the main idea, and he just weaves them in and out.



Here's one of the famous RZA "switch ups." Now, here's a track where he has a few distinct and dope loops to create variation, with the horn loop, the bare bassline, and then the switch up to the piano loop. In terms of different looped sections, this is one of RZA's more varied beats, yet notice he doesn't just rely on the fact that he has these different sections. He uses record scratches, and also little sound effects to keep the basic stripped down verse section interesting, then that mighty switch up. That feeling that the track is alive still is present throughout.



Now here's a super simple example to show how RZA works when he doesn't have as many spare parts. Here he's basically looping a 2 bar sample, straight up as the driving element of the whole track. As minimal as it is, don't sleep on the arrangement, as basic as it is, it does just enough to keep it feeling alive... but I'll be honest the MC's being as great as they are helps. Think about the little things he's doing to keep the track feeling alive. What could you learn from that? Think about that for a second, he made a hit record off of a 2 bar sample. He doesn't always have to hit you with a huge switch in the beat to make it feel alive.


I've heard many beat makers cop pleas like "it only sounds repetitive because there's no rapper on it." I remember the days when I'd make one or two loops, just lay them across the arrangement timeline and call it a day. In the end, if that's all you're doing, it's not doing enough.
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Great thread breh...I agree with what you saying.

Rza made simple shyt sound complex. nikkas be so hype that they can flip a sample into a dope loop, that they just stop right there instead of trying to build it into an arrangement that can be made into a song.
 
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Appreciate this thread breh.. :blessed::salute:

Perfect examples of vibing with the artist directly, producer n emcee(s) in the same room/on the same wavelength. Im pretty sure majority of WU material was written as the beats were being made or shortly after. Now of days selling beats online or sending em through an a&r you really don't have that chance, adding drops and soundbytes is basically asking to receive that "I love everything....BUT" email or your beat might just get skipped over all together. To become a super producer you really have to find & build with your own artist(s), all the greats did.
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Rza has no equal to me and remains my fav producer of all time. You can probably tell I'm a bit of a rza wannabee with my beats and when I was learning how to put tracks together it was definitely his instrumentals I was listening to.
Like u said after 20 years those albums are nice as hell production wise and lyrically you gotta be looking at the greatest hip hop collective of all time.
Rza's sample is choice is impeccable and he can make the most random sample sound crazy (ice cream) and has the best use of vocal samples in the game to me.
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Appreciate this thread breh.. :blessed::salute:

Perfect examples of vibing with the artist directly, producer n emcee(s) in the same room/on the same wavelength. Im pretty sure majority of WU material was written as the beats were being made or shortly after. Now of days selling beats online or sending em through an a&r you really don't have that chance, adding drops and soundbytes is basically asking to receive that "I love everything....BUT" email or your beat might just get skipped over all together. To become a super producer you really have to find & build with your own artist(s), all the greats did.
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Great point
 

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rza brought a lot of old fundamentals to it, and updated them. dont forget he was milling around long before wutang and he had ties to prince paul, arguably one of the best sample artists ever.

you can compare him to preemo and pete, and just as easily compare him to marley marl or the sd50's
 

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Very inspirational......I definitely agree with the piece on variation. My rule of thumb is to have something new happen in my daw every few bars. Also, I try to make at least four "pieces" or scene types in every beat. Take a listen to this:



The changeup towards the end was basically a new beat.

RZA taught me also about layering instruments behind samples, like in For Heavens Sake, even if u arent a great keyboard player. Listen to the added strings, especially at the end:




Just dope.

His sound is instamtly recognizable, his genius undeniable, and his style is undeniably hard to copy. Props @KillSpray
 
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Y'all gotta check my guy out on youtube... he rock on the eps 16+ (machine before the Asr 10 shown in this thread)

TOOO DOPE!





 
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