Backstage Relationship Between Heyman & The McMahons

[ThatKidBlackHippy]

PWTorch recently talked with former WWE Creative writers Seth Mates and Andrew Goldstein, who both reported that the backstage dynamic between Paul Heyman and Vince McMahon is not positive. While Vince realizes that Heyman is good for business in his current angle with CM Punk, and necessary as a moutpiece for Brock Lesnar, he does not respect Heyman's creative input.

When also mentioning Stephanie McMahon and Triple H, Goldstein said: "The three of them cannot stand Paul Heyman. They sit around and they joke about Paul Heyman - about him sweating and his suits are cheap and he showed up in a rented, broken-down limo the first day he signed a contract to make himself look like a big deal, and they make fun of his ideas and they do imitations of him. But, I think all three of them are extremely jealous of his brain."

Be A Star.

 

[Henzo]

I bet Vince does a goat Heyman impression

 

[CJ]

 

[The Prince of All Saiyans]

who wouldn't be making fun of someone sweating for no reason and wearing cheap suits or coming thru in some busted ass limo

 

[Dog Based Gremlin]

This doesnt seem real

but im alright with it because every coworker gets made fun of at every job. Wrestling is no different. He still hired tbough

 

[Ill Lou Malnati]

who wouldn't be making fun of someone sweating for no reason and wearing cheap suits or coming thru in some busted ass limo

Sweating for no reason is ALWAYS a reason to throw out some Grade-A ether.

 

[The Prince of All Saiyans]

This doesnt seem real

but im alright with it because every coworker gets made fun of at every job. Wrestling is no different. He still hired tbough

so is hornswoggle.

we need that duke the dumpster droese return more than ever

 

[Henzo]

the jew jokes alone must be wild behind close doors

 

[PopOnCloud9]

They don't have to like him, but they have to break bread with him regardless. That is what business is all about most of the time, making money with a bunch of mofos that you can't stand and that can't stand you.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

Former writers talking about current goings-on. Gotta love dirt sheets

 

[K-Apps]

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Continuing the theme of behind-the-scenes pushed to in-front-of-the-cameras, Goldstein said he's sure there were shoot elements when Stephanie returned to TV in July and slapped Heyman across the face while Hunter stood in the ring. "I know how real that was - how much enjoyment Stephanie got from actually getting to do that," said Goldstein.

In addition to Heyman's political style, Heyman's pattern of pitching new ideas seems to be one of the main points of contention between Heyman and the McMahons. Whereas McMahon sticks to what works and "gets every ounce out of it," as Mates said, Heyman is always looking for "the next big thing."

Mates recalled how this came into play at Summerslam 2002 when WWE focused heavily on The Rock and Brock Lesnar in training videos to build toward the PPV.

"I'll never forget," Mates said. "Paul said to Vince, 'Vince, those vignettes changed our business.' Paul understood that the next big boom in terms of competition was going to be legitimate fighting combat and how that comes together. Paul had touched on the UFC boom before it ever happened. We ran those vignettes up to Summerslam and they went over really well, and by the next month, we're back to wrestling storylines again. I'm not saying Vince should have fundamentally changed things. But, that's Paul's strength. Paul is that contrary voice screaming that the emperor is naked when everyone else knows that the secret to their own job stability is to pretend that the emperor's clothes are beautiful."

Goldstein echoed Mates's story recalling the final blow-up between Heyman and the McMahons at the December to Dismember PPV in December 2005. "Paul was adamant," Goldstein said. "We have to have Punk go over the Big Show and put the ECW Title on this guy and let's ride him. And, Vince, whether it was a good idea (or not), because it came from Paul, he said, 'Oh no. Big Show. Big Show. Big Show. (Bobby) Lashley. I'm going to make this my own. Paul, shut up."

What brought Heyman back to WWE was Brock Lesnar, and WWE realizing (too late) that Lesnar needed a mouthpiece. Now, Heyman is able to contribute ideas again, albeit not in a formal setting. Whether it works out in the long-term between the Heyman Camp, which also includes current WWE champion C.M. Punk, and the McMahon Trio remains to be seen.

"Paul doesn't care what anybody thinks of him, but the three of them can't stand Paul," said Goldstein. "But, I will give Vince credit to this - he will do whatever is right for business."

 

[Alexander The Great]

the jew jokes alone must be wild behind close doors

you wild

 

[Henzo]

Former writers talking about current goings-on. Gotta love dirt sheets

seth mates hasn't been there since 2002 and goldstein was a writer for 4 months on smackdown in 2006

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

Paul is just a worker bee with good ideas. He's Mr. McNugget in the wire conversation...great guy and GREAT mind but hes a schlub and the mcmahons surely find him a joke. Stephanie was straight shooting on him in that promo a few weeks back

 

[Mook]

Paul is just a worker bee with good ideas. He's Mr. McNugget in the wire conversation...great guy and GREAT mind but hes a schlub and the mcmahons surely find him a joke. Stephanie was straight shooting on him in that promo a few weeks back

Paul Heyman is a black sheep.

let's be reality, who would respect a Jew who is bad with money?

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