Asian-Americans destroy the GOP's "maker/taker" excuse

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So, for those of you who don't know this, Asian-Americans make more money than white Americans. Thus, they pay more income tax. And Asians are half as likely as the average American to be on welfare.


Thus, Asian-Americans, by the Romney/O'Reilly/French definition, are "makers", not "takers". Even more than whites. They're also more likely to be married. And to start businesses.


And yet Asian-Americans broke for Obama 3-to-1. David French should definitely be including them in his list of Obama's "core constituencies". The fact that he doesn't do so is a telling sign of "epistemic closure" - of conservatives not seeing what is plainly in front of them, preferring instead to repeat to themselves a pleasant, soothing, but false story.


If they're not "takers", why did Asian-Americans break so strongly for Obama? The answer is pretty clear: Conservative ethnic identity politics. The American conservative movement has made it abundantly clear that it sees America as a "white people country", and views Asians - like blacks and Hispanics - as guests (at best) or interlopers (at worst). The blood-and-soil white ethnocentrism of the conservative movement makes Asians feel like permanent foreigners in their own country, and they don't like feeling like that. Who would?


I'm pretty sure this is the right answer. Why? Because I myself am a member of a group that is demographically and electorally similar to Asian-Americans - namely, Jewish-Americans. Jews are America's second-richest religious group (behind Hindus), and yet Jewish voters broke almost 3-to-1 for Obama this year, and more than 3-to-1 in 2008. Why do Jews vote Democratic? Simple: for all their talk of "Judeo-Christian values" and support for Israel (as if anyone cares about that!), the Republicans make it clear that they think the ethnic core of America is not just white, but Christian as well. Jews don't want to have their schools lead them in prayers to Jesus. We don't like it when Bill O'Reilly demands that stores put only "Merry Christmas" on their holiday banners, and not "Happy Channukah".


We Jews are not stupid; we know that the grassroots of the conservative movement, at least in its present incarnation, will never accept us as true "sons of the soil". The liberal movement will. It's as simple as that. And I'm pretty sure Asian-Americans are thinking along similar lines.

So if conservative intellectuals really want to turn their movement away from the self-destructive path that they're on, they need to face up to one overwhelmingly important piece of reality: White (Christian) ethnocentrism is turning everyone else against them. Getting rid of that ethnocentrism will take more than putting some Hispanics, or some Asians, or some Jews on the speaker's podium. It will take more than pretending to vote for - or even actually voting for! - Herman Cain or Marco Rubio or Bobby Jindal.

What will it mean? It will mean no longer talking about a "culture war". It will mean no longer talking about the "real America". It will mean rejecting race-baiters like Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck and Andrew Breitbart - not grudgingly, but wholeheartedly. It will mean rejecting nativist groups like the Minutemen. It will mean admitting that the Civil War was all about slavery, and that the Confederacy were the bad guys. It will mean disavowing the whole stupid narrative that blacks and Hispanics are a bunch of lazy "takers".

In other words, it will mean doing a lot more than the conservative movement is currently prepared to do. But guys, at least face up to reality. At least open your eyes and see what the rest of America really thinks about you. The Asian-American vote is an unmistakable sign that your master narrative is wrong.

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They're communists though from the perspective of other people.

East Asians, sometimes, but Indians/Hindus are even more wealthy than those and nobody thinks they're communists. I think it's more a case of general stereotyping/ignorance of what these communities are actually up to.
 

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East Asians, sometimes, but Indians/Hindus are even more wealthy than those and nobody thinks they're communists. I think it's more a case of general stereotyping/ignorance of what these communities are actually up to.

They look at those groups as t3rr0ri$ts. Why do you think after 911, in your city, people were attacking our Indian friends as if they had something to do with the attack. Its so demonic.
 
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It's the image of the republican party that is at fault.

It doesn't help that Asians are the most educated are forced to go through the brainwashing machine of the G.E. Requirements.

Fiscally conservative Asians are abound, and they are scared of the republican party because it is seen a party for whites and whites only. The social issues, especially, do not resonate with Asians.

Changing that image is going very hard because no matter what they do, they will always have people like the members of this forum attacking them and demeaning any non-white who takes a prominent position in the party.
 

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They look at those groups as t3rr0ri$ts. Why do you think after 911, in your city, people were attacking our Indian friends as if they had something to do with the attack. Its so demonic.

yep. my temple was firebombed and vandalized the week after 911. its so demonic:damn:
 

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It's the image of the republican party that is at fault.

It doesn't help that Asians are the most educated are forced to go through the brainwashing machine of the G.E. Requirements.

Fiscally conservative Asians are abound, and they are scared of the republican party because it is seen a party for whites and whites only. The social issues, especially, do not resonate with Asians.

Changing that image is going very hard because no matter what they do, they will always have people like the members of this forum attacking them and demeaning any non-white who takes a prominent position in the party.

The Republicans are doing it to themselves. The most notable thing is the most recent committee assignments. All white guys. They couldn't find one woman of seniority to head a committee? That and the whole Norquist pledge makes them seem unreasonable. And then there is the Tea Party...:what:
 

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It's the image of the republican party that is at fault.

It doesn't help that Asians are the most educated are forced to go through the brainwashing machine of the G.E. Requirements.

Fiscally conservative Asians are abound, and they are scared of the republican party because it is seen a party for whites and whites only. The social issues, especially, do not resonate with Asians.

Changing that image is going very hard because no matter what they do, they will always have people like the members of this forum attacking them and demeaning any non-white who takes a prominent position in the party.

Republicans only hope is Black folks, without them they are done.

I think Black folks are an easier target because blacks have a history with the party & mostly believe in the religious right but that party through them in the bushes so blacks just go Dems for the same reason Asians do.

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