Article about black people not being on the creative teams of "Black Movies"

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2014/08/13/african-american-movies-column/13907703/


One of my all-time favorite James Brown tunes (and there are a lot of them on my mobile device's playlist) is "I Feel Good." It's hard for me to feel that way about the new film based on the life of the legendary entertainer and, yes, civil rights icon.

Again Hollywood has attempted to give insight into the African-American experience, which is welcome, but again it didn't go far enough. The film's authenticity could have been greatly improved by simply adding more black voices to its creative team. Of four producers, including Mick Jagger, not a single one was African-American. Nor were any black writers involved, and it looks like Spike Lee was consulted only briefly.

I'm not disputing whether non-blacks can write believable scripts about African-Americans. Obviously, they can. Indeed, Chadwick Boseman, who also starred in 42, which told the story of baseball legend Jackie Robinson, is likely to get a well deserved Oscar nomination for his portrayal of Brown.

The Help, which purported to tell the up-close story of black maids in the South during the 1960s, also won high honors, including an Oscar for Octavia Spencer, an African-American actress. But as someone who grew up overhearing conversations involving grown folks like my mother, grandmother and others who not only cleaned the homes of white people, but raised their children, let's just say The Help didn't develop the black characters deeply enough.

Interestingly, both films were adapted to the screen by Tate Taylor, who obviously needs to widen his circle of friends and professional associates if he plans to continue telling stories about black people. Gregory Allen Howard, who wrote a piece, "The whitewashing of James Brown," for Huffington Post, nailed it: "If someone decided to do the Gloria Steinem story, you better believe women would be involved; they'd have to be."

Carvin Eison, a local African-American filmmaker, called the lack of black participation in the developmental stages of the Brown movie, "insane."

It must be conceded, however, that film financiers, for the most part, don't make movies for altruistic purposes. They do it to make money. Lots of it. Raising capital may have been a huge problem for African-Americans not so long ago, but today there are more wealthy black people than ever. In fact, the August issue of Ebony magazine is devoted to black wealth.

The NBA's LeBron James, for instance, is practically worth the GNP of Ohio. Even pro athletes earning comparatively meager salaries of less than $1 million a year could pool their resources to create funds that can help finance film projects.

If they did, maybe the opening scene in the Brown movie wouldn't have had a wild-eyed "Godfather of Soul" on a rant with a shotgun. Blacks on the creative team might have not only stressed Brown's entertainment skills and quirky personality, but his conservative politics, and the messages he sent fellow African-Americans through his music. He had hits such as "Say it Loud, I'm Black and I'm Proud," "Don't Be a Dropout," and "I Don't Want Nobody Giving Me Nothing (Open Up the Door and I'll Get It Myself)."

And who knows, maybe some of the entertainers who make millions filling the heads of their fans with lyrics about misogyny, mayhem and materialism might have had an awakening?

Such nuances, provided by people who understood their gravity, would have gone far to show the complexities of the man from Augusta, Georgia, and make a good movie, much better.
 

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People can't complaining about the quality of movies black people make if they also use the term "black movie". When you define a movie by a race all artistic merit is gone.
 
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People can't complaining about the quality of movies black people make if they also use the term "black movie". When you define a movie by a race all artistic merit is gone.

I can't agree with this. It's just colloquial speech to describe movies with predominantly black casts. And it's just one term, to describe the movie, not the only term.

The Wood is a black movie. It's also a coming of age story, a comedy, a romantic comedy, etc.

Using the label 'black movie' is no different than using the label 'gangster flick'.... neither destroys artistic merit.
 
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I agree with the article tho, and i think that's why we keep getting biopics and movies about being black instead of black people being.
 

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I can't agree with this. It's just colloquial speech to describe movies with predominantly black casts. And it's just one term, to describe the movie, not the only term.

The Wood is a black movie. It's also a coming of age story, a comedy, a romantic comedy, etc.

Using the label 'black movie' is no different than using the label 'gangster flick'.... neither destroys artistic merit.

The term "black movie" is = only black people will enjoy it unless its a comedy stoner white dudes will enjoy it. It's also very different from "gangster flick" because gangsters are not a race.
 

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Not many of us are in positions to make movies. And if I was, I wouldn't be making movies about slavery and subservience.

I would make a movie for the artistry of movie making. Race would be an after thought. But thats me.
 
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The term "black movie" is = only black people will enjoy it unless its a comedy stoner white dudes will enjoy it. It's also very different from "gangster flick" because gangsters are not a race.

To you, perhaps, but that's not what I mean when i use the term.

And yes gangster is not a race, but the point was they're just buckets. Films often fit into multiple buckets. If you want buckets closer to race consider an Asian movie, or French movie.... you need not be French or Asian to enjoy good flicks that fit in those buckets. Nor does placing movies in those buckets (that typically have nothing to do with being Asian/French) strip away artistic merit.
 

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To you, perhaps, but that's not what I mean when i use the term.

And yes gangster is not a race, but the point was they're just buckets. Films often fit into multiple buckets. If you want buckets closer to race consider an Asian movie, or French movie.... you need not be French or Asian to enjoy good flicks that fit in those buckets. Nor does placing movies in those buckets (that typically have nothing to do with being Asian/French) strip away artistic merit.

Asian movie is also a terrible term just like Black movie, it tells me nothing about the film except skincolor and that's my point. There shouldn't be a "genre" for skincolor or race.
 
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Asian movie is also a terrible term just like Black movie, it tells me nothing about the film except skincolor and that's my point. There shouldn't be a "genre" for skincolor or race.

asian movie are movies made and produced in asia, thats simple enough

so called black movies are being produced and made by white people
 
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The problem is that when mainstream movies starring black people get made, they are often movies where the characters being black are a large part of the movie, unless they are movies starring Will Smith or Denzel. So it is an issue when there are no black people involved in a movie that is trying to depict a black experience.
 

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...The NBA's LeBron James, for instance, is practically worth the GNP of Ohio. Even pro athletes earning comparatively meager salaries of less than $1 million a year could pool their resources to create funds that can help finance film projects...
This sentence tells me the author is a total moron.
There are big corporations whose headquarters are in Ohio. All the other pro athletes and pro coaches in Cleveland Browns, Cleveland Indians, Cleveland Cavaliers, Cincinnati Bengals, Cincinnati Reds, Columbus Crew and the Columbus Blue Jackets are making a ton of cash too. Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer makes $4+ million.
 

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One of my all-time favorite James Brown tunes (and there are a lot of them on my mobile device's playlist) is "I Feel Good." It's hard for me to feel that way about the new film based on the life of the legendary entertainer and, yes, civil rights icon.

Again Hollywood has attempted to give insight into the African-American experience, which is welcome, but again it didn't go far enough. The film's authenticity could have been greatly improved by simply adding more black voices to its creative team. Of four producers, including Mick Jagger, not a single one was African-American. Nor were any black writers involved, and it looks like Spike Lee was consulted only briefly.

I'm not disputing whether non-blacks can write believable scripts about African-Americans. Obviously, they can. Indeed, Chadwick Boseman, who also starred in 42, which told the story of baseball legend Jackie Robinson, is likely to get a well deserved Oscar nomination for his portrayal of Brown.

The Help, which purported to tell the up-close story of black maids in the South during the 1960s, also won high honors, including an Oscar for Octavia Spencer, an African-American actress. But as someone who grew up overhearing conversations involving grown folks like my mother, grandmother and others who not only cleaned the homes of white people, but raised their children, let's just say The Help didn't develop the black characters deeply enough.

Interestingly, both films were adapted to the screen by Tate Taylor, who obviously needs to widen his circle of friends and professional associates if he plans to continue telling stories about black people. Gregory Allen Howard, who wrote a piece, "The whitewashing of James Brown," for Huffington Post, nailed it: "If someone decided to do the Gloria Steinem story, you better believe women would be involved; they'd have to be."

Carvin Eison, a local African-American filmmaker, called the lack of black participation in the developmental stages of the Brown movie, "insane."

It must be conceded, however, that film financiers, for the most part, don't make movies for altruistic purposes. They do it to make money. Lots of it. Raising capital may have been a huge problem for African-Americans not so long ago, but today there are more wealthy black people than ever. In fact, the August issue of Ebony magazine is devoted to black wealth.

The NBA's LeBron James, for instance, is practically worth the GNP of Ohio. Even pro athletes earning comparatively meager salaries of less than $1 million a year could pool their resources to create funds that can help finance film projects.

If they did, maybe the opening scene in the Brown movie wouldn't have had a wild-eyed "Godfather of Soul" on a rant with a shotgun. Blacks on the creative team might have not only stressed Brown's entertainment skills and quirky personality, but his conservative politics, and the messages he sent fellow African-Americans through his music. He had hits such as "Say it Loud, I'm Black and I'm Proud," "Don't Be a Dropout," and "I Don't Want Nobody Giving Me Nothing (Open Up the Door and I'll Get It Myself)."

And who knows, maybe some of the entertainers who make millions filling the heads of their fans with lyrics about misogyny, mayhem and materialism might have had an awakening?

Such nuances, provided by people who understood their gravity, would have gone far to show the complexities of the man from Augusta, Georgia, and make a good movie, much better.

I get the author's point about how Hollywood tends to freeze black talent out of behind the scenes roles in so-called "black films" but he sort of loses steam with his point by using Get On Up as an example of how no blacks behind the scenes resulted in the movie beginning with a scene of "a wild-eyed "Godfather of Soul" on a rant with a shotgun". The one thing Get On Up didn't do was make a mockery of Brown or focus too much on the darker aspects of his life and his own behavior.
They didn't spend any time on his abusive childhood and completely glossed over the Godfather's own physical and mental abuse towards the women in his life. So the guy has a point but he is using the wrong evidence to try and drive it home.
 
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