Another story of a religious curriculum omitting science studies

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English is Absent and Math Doesn't Count at Brooklyn's Biggest Yeshivas - DNAinfo.com New York

Shmueli Lowenstein's experience is much more common. The 25-year-old is a former student at Oholei Torah, the most prominent yeshiva in Crown Heights, where, he said, “I did not grow up learning English or any kind of secular studies at all,” and subjects like phonics and math were “nonexistent."

“Everything was done in Yiddish until seventh or eighth grade, and then they would switch to Hebrew," Lowenstein said. "I don’t think I ever received a paper with English writing on it, except for maybe a permission slip for a school trip.”

Under New York state and federal regulations, stories like Lowenstein’s shouldn’t be possible — all New York schools, public and private, are required to offer "equivalency of instruction" in basic general subjects such as American history and math.

The state allows religious students to omit evolution questions on the Regents exam, but there is no waiver to exclude science from the curriculum.

Oholei Torah would not answer questions about its curriculum.

But more than a dozen parents, teachers and students told DNAinfo.com New York that many of Brooklyn’s Orthodox Jewish schools fall shy of even that narrow requirement, offering only an hour or two a day of pro-forma instruction for general subjects, if any.

“There are a number of schools which have absolutely no pretenses of it — kids from 3-years-old to 18 have no secular education at all, ” said Zalman Alpert, a librarian at Yeshiva University and an expert on the Orthodox community.

“Many other schools in Borough Park and Williamsburg are testing the waters about either doing away with secular studies altogether or ratcheting it down another few levels.”

 

[Slaimon Khan Shah]

SHOUTS OUT TO ALL OF THE ORTHODOX JEWISH WOMEN OUT THERE.

 

[The Real]

That is just pathetic. No English? No math? No science? How do these people even survive as adults? What jobs do they get, or does the community support them somehow?

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

SHOUTS OUT TO ALL OF THE ORTHODOX JEWISH WOMEN OUT THERE.

great t*ts :bueno:

 

[dennis roadman]

Education is pretty much the only reason Jews have been able to thrive in the U.S. Take that away and they're tenement dwellers. I don't think many of the guys in this article, the insular ones, would have a problem with that unfortunately.

these ultraorthodox dudes are on some shyt. in israel, they average like 19 kids a family, many on welfare. in the US, they treat anything non-Jewish, like fukking MATH, like anathema.

this country has been pretty good to jews considering their long history. time to give all that old world russia shyt up brehs

 

[Slaimon Khan Shah]

great t*ts

THANK YOU KINDLY.

 

[88m3]

That is just pathetic. No English? No math? No science? How do these people even survive as adults? What jobs do they get, or does the community support them somehow?

don't you live in the city?

 

[The Real]

don't you live in the city?

Yeah, and I see them all the time, but the ones I see all speak English and work in the business world.