Ana Kasparian (TYT) leaves the Democratic Party; UPDATE: Cenk went on PBD and sold out its over

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There’s money in resisting Trump though, that’s how they grew in popularity after Trump won the first time. MAGA knows that and it wouldn’t surprise me if they were paid off to be friendly to Trump this time.
Not really. The resistance Trump media that makes money is all standard Dem shyt. TYT made money being to the left of the Democratic Party and critiquing them from the left. Cenk literally got a job at MSNBC being that sort of person. This was especially true during the 2015/16 primary. They never figured out how to be difference makers when Republicans are in power. The Justice Democrats stuff they backed failed. Cenk had that stupid stunt of running for office and he even talked about running for president. All of that shyt was to rally the left and get attention from that crowd. None of that shyt worked because they don’t have the financial backing or dollars to make a dent and they’re not really embedded in any communities. They’re not organizations nor DC veterans. Cenk was crying about why aren’t they on Netflix.

It’s not that complicated - they recognize their shrinking influence as their college-aged fans grew up and don’t watch the network and gen z took to streamers and TikTok. So they’re trying to do the same thing Krystal Ball and old boy did with the Hill that made them a lot of money. They played the same populist game that “went beyond left and right.” Cenk and Ana are trying to follow their playbook. It’s literally the same thing.
 

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I told you guys month ago what was happening. There’s no money on the left because people on the left don’t sit there looking for media that confirms their worldview. Also, they’re just kind of corny.
If the end goal was money and not the message then maybe he and his channel weren’t as progressive as some people on here continuously told us for years
 

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If the end goal was money and not the message then maybe he and his channel weren’t as progressive as some people on here continuously told us for years
Not sure how someone changing has anything to do with their past content.
 

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Not sure how someone changing has anything to do with their past content.
Yeah and I hear you on that but like people never talk about Mao's early life as an educator either. You know?
 

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Not sure how someone changing has anything to do with their past content.
Based on cenks history he’s done quite a bit of “changing”. One could argue based on his history of being a McCain voting republican he’s just going back home. I’d argue he hasn’t changed at all, he’s doing what he’s always done, told people what they want to hear to get money from them. And if that’s the case, that goes back to my original point, he was never as progressive as we were constantly told for years.
 

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Cenk is dancing like a monkey for the right wing. Got damn we lost

No we didn’t lose. Actually, we are all kind of lame for having this long ass thread about one outlet turning heel. We got more important shyt to talk about than Ana and Cenk.

I’m putting this thread on ignore.
 

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He’s crashing out forreal. He’s really calling Trump an avatar for anti corruption and is blaming Kamala personally for Gaza?
He also used the Trump play where he says he got higher ratings when he was on Olberman's show.

He also tried to pit the black TYT's folks together when he called out Ben Dixon.

Him and Ana are fccked, if you're Jayar, Dr Richey, John, Francesca, and other contributors on there, you have to say something, especially Richey who always has segments on his show talking about racism.
 

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Based on cenks history he’s done quite a bit of “changing”. One could argue based on his history of being a McCain voting republican he’s just going back home. I’d argue he hasn’t changed at all, he’s doing what he’s always done, told people what they want to hear to get money from them. And if that’s the case, that goes back to my original point, he was never as progressive as we were constantly told for years.
Once again, what does that have to do with producing progressive content and platforming progressives? If a racist (most of America) sees a benefit in hiring a bunch of black people, and then that becomes a pro black network? Do you actually care if he personally likes black people?

This all feels like it’s coming down to a crusade to prove the point that you’re actually better and smarter than every other person to the left of you or even being mad that there are people to the left of you and trying to fight some internet fight from 2015 and be “right” and “saw through it.” Because you god damn well that no “all star” here latches on to any person or politician and it was those sort of people checking TYT on criminal justice and other issues that had them in their feelings - especially Ana. But for whatever reason you view them as some sort of infallible bastion of the progressive movement and that by undermining them you will undermine the left when they’ve been largely irrelevant and have been since 2020. What do they do now has no bearing on what they represented back when progressive voices didn’t have different avenues to get their voices out. Similar to Bill Maher - the times pass people by.
 
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It’s eerie that we’ve heard the same stuff on here for months. I have to wonder if people were just copying and pasting his tweets at this point.
:wow: looks like you recovered from the " wayne county" going to decide the election analysis, maybe you copied that from the same spot cenk got his playbook from
 

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:wow: looks like you recovered from the " wayne county" going to decide the election analysis, maybe you copied that from the same spot cenk got his playbook from
It looks like you’ve also recovered from “I have no idea what youre talking about” to “yes I have a thread solely about TYT I created that I’ve posted in 136 times, silly me”

I’m glad to see we both are coming to our senses
 
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Once again, what does that have to do with producing progressive content and platforming progressives? If a racist (most of America) sees a benefit in hiring a bunch of black people, and then that becomes a pro black network? Do you actually care if he personally likes black people?

This all feels like it’s coming down to a crusade to prove the point that you’re actually better and smarter than every other person to the left of you or even being mad that there are people to the left of you and trying to fight some internet fight from 2015 and be “right” and “saw through it.” Because you god damn well that no “all star” here latches on to any person or politician and it was those sort of people checking TYT on criminal justice and other issues that had them in their feelings - especially Ana. But for whatever reason you view them as some sort of infallible bastion of the progressive movement and that by undermining them you will undermine the left when they’ve been largely irrelevant and have been since 2020. What do they do now has no bearing on what they represented back when progressive voices didn’t have different avenues to get their voices out. Similar to Bill Maher - the times pass people by.
Counselor you’re making a lot of leaps and conjecture here.

I guess my first question would be are you considering yourself to be an “all star” because the whole second paragraph is false. We had dudes on here daily touting him and others as the only truth tellers in media and doing exactly what you are saying, shytting on other people for not watching/listening to them. He went from voting for McCain to being a stalwart progressive to being a great value OANN. Maybe he never was what you thought in the first place.

For your first (poor) analogy, I guess the network has now somehow gone from being pro black to funding the KKK. But I guess as long as it was (disingenuously) pro black for a minute that’s cool.

The times didn’t pass him by, the money did. He was never what yall said he was.

Stop caping for him, its not cute.
 
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