Ana Kasparian (TYT) leaves the Democratic Party; UPDATE: Cenk went on PBD and sold out its over

[winb83]

That election really broke the brains of some Bernie voters or vast majority of them, the left wing to right wing dirt bag movement really is a huge thing in his caucus of supporters. The whole lets tear down the whole country cause my candidate didn't win logic makes zero sense lol

It might not make sense to you but the majority of the country just voted for it so it makes sense to them.

The difference is the republicans have a person like Trump rise up and they probably don't like most of what he says or does but they're smart enough to take advantage of him to achieve their goals.

You can't really rise up in the democratic party like that because the establishment will crush whatever they don't approve of rather than figure out how to capitalize on it.

As long as the democrats are a party never-Trumpers feel comfortable enough to vote for they're going to struggle at the national level.

 

[88m3]

tyt might as well shutdown

 

[Pressure]

You can't really rise up in the democratic party like that because the establishment will crush whatever they don't approve of rather than figure out how to capitalize on it.

What kind of revisionist history is this bullshyt.

The Republican Party fought tooth and nail to keep Trump out of the Oval Office he was just more popular than guys like Rubio, Jeb Bush, and and that weirdo from Texas.

Hell even this year he had a primary with a guy like Desantis who the establishment preferred as the new face of the party and Nikki Haley.

Ironically, he’s been the head of the party for 5 elections. MAGA is the establishment now

 

[winb83]

What kind of revisionist history is this bullshyt.

The Republican Party fought tooth and nail to keep Trump out of the Oval Office he was just more popular than guys like Rubio, Jeb Bush, and and that weirdo from Texas.

Hell even this year he had a primary with a guy like Desantis who the establishment preferred as the new face of the party and Nikki Haley.

The republican party could have when he was impeached bar him from office. They elected not to.

I'm not saying they preferred him I'm saying they figured out how to capitalize on his rise when it came down to it. That's how they have a supreme court majority and overturned Roe.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

What kind of revisionist history is this bullshyt.

The Republican Party fought tooth and nail to keep Trump out of the Oval Office he was just more popular than guys like Rubio, Jeb Bush, and and that weirdo from Texas.

Hell even this year he had a primary with a guy like Desantis who the establishment preferred as the new face of the party and Nikki Haley.

Ironically, he’s been the head of the party for 5 elections. MAGA is the establishment now

I wouldn’t say FOUGHT, but they certainly were more oppositional to Trump than any democrat was

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

tyt might as well shutdown

Tenet investment 2.0

 

[Pressure]

The republican party could have when he was impeached bar him from office. They elected not to.

I'm not saying they preferred him I'm saying they figured out how to capitalize on his rise when it came down to it. That's how they have a supreme court majority and overturned Roe.

But that’s not the point of contention.

The point of contention was you saying the republican establishment didn’t try to stop Trump before he took over their party. They did.

As far as his impeachment, Why would they be opposed to Trump when he was pushing nothing but conservative policies from conservative think tanks and stuffing the courts with conservative judges.



And at Kamala Harris being on the top of the ticket being anything but a coup for the most progressive senator we’ve had since she’s been in office.

The establishment definitely wanted someone else

 

[Genos]

That sounds nice on paper and theory but in practice racism overrides class solidarity. Why do you think poor whites were willing to die for rich whites to own slaves? Why did union whites resist allowing blacks into unions when there is a greater strength in numbers?

Breh almost got it right here

People must be doing okay if the only thing they're worried about are Trannies and eggs.

When people aren't doing well they start worrying about everything else and seeing others as competition. A big reason why poor southern whites fought for slavery is because they were afraid of competing with black people in the job market. They thought former slaves would work for lower wages and outcompete them in their already low paying jobs. Kind of like how nikkas now argue against illegal immigrants today.

Tribalism is engrained in the human psyche and rural whites would rather see white supremacy to be emboldened than for them to receive free healthcare or more affordable housing.

Rural whites see rich whites as their class more than blacks or other minorities in the same economic bracket

Tribes are dynamic and not concrete like you say. Who you consider in your tribe is constantly changing and is not always as wide reaching as the person may believe. Categories like race are actually classes that were created to make economic class more mysterious and obfuscated

 

[Loose]

But that’s not the point of contention.

The point of contention was you saying the republican establishment didn’t try to stop Trump before he took over their party. They did.

As far as his impeachment, Why would they be opposed to Trump when he was pushing nothing but conservative policies from conservative think tanks and stuffing the courts with conservative judges.



And at Kamala Harris being on the top of the ticket being anything but a coup for the most progressive senator we’ve had since she’s been in office.

The establishment definitely wanted someone else

She ran a" im the one who's tough on crime" anti illegal immigration campaign, wouldn't exactly call her progressive. She wasnt in Congress long enough anyway to be talking about the way she leans anyway. I'd agree that the establishment wanted someone else but I don't believe she ran as a progressive, she ran like a moderate/ establishment dem would have. She actually ran to the right of biden.

 

[Robbie3000]

Breh almost got it right here

When people aren't doing well they start worrying about everything else and seeing others as competition. A big reason why poor southern whites fought for slavery is because they were afraid of competing with black people in the job market. They thought former slaves would work for lower wages and outcompete them in their already low paying jobs. Kind of like how nikkas now argue against illegal immigrants today.

Tribes are dynamic and not concrete like you say. Who you consider in your tribe is constantly changing and is not always as wide reaching as the person may believe. Categories like race are actually classes that were created to make economic class more mysterious and obfuscated

 

[Pressure]

She ran a" im the one who's tough on crime" anti illegal immigration campaign, wouldn't exactly call her progressive. She wasnt in Congress long enough anyway to be talking about the way she leans anyway. I'd agree that the establishment wanted someone else but I don't believe she ran as a progressive, she ran like a moderate/ establishment dem would have. She actually ran to the right of biden.

In reality:

NYT poll: 47% of voters decribed Kamala Harris as "too liberal or progressive" while 9% described her as "not liberal or progressive enough." For contrast, just 32% of voters described Trump as "too conservative."

 

[Genos]

Plenty of people here argue against illegal immigrantion for job reasons.

 

[Pressure]

When people aren't doing well they start worrying about everything else and seeing others as competition. A big reason why poor southern whites fought for slavery is because they were afraid of competing with black people in the job market. They thought former slaves would work for lower wages and outcompete them in their already low paying jobs. Kind of like how nikkas now argue against illegal immigrants today.

 

[wire28]

Why won’t this nikka just post from his main account instead of cycling through his God knows how many burner accounts

 

[winb83]

But that’s not the point of contention.

The point of contention was you saying the republican establishment didn’t try to stop Trump before he took over their party. They did.

As far as his impeachment, Why would they be opposed to Trump when he was pushing nothing but conservative policies from conservative think tanks and stuffing the courts with conservative judges.



And at Kamala Harris being on the top of the ticket being anything but a coup for the most progressive senator we’ve had since she’s been in office.

The establishment definitely wanted someone else

I never said they didn't try to stop him. They had a primary and people ran once they figured out they could exploit Trump they all got behind him and got him to the presidency. You saw a unified party behind a candidate they all didn't prefer.

The republicans want to win more than anything. The democrats would never do something like that. They'd rather lose than have a candidate at the top of the ticket they don't prefer. The republicans will tolerate a non-preferred at the top of the ticket if it means they win. They'll work the rest out later.