am i the only one who is offended when people compare NCAA to slavery?

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Former Duke star Wendell Carter's mother likens NCAA's rules to slavery during speech
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- In an emotional address on Monday at a meeting of the Knight Commission on Intercollegiate Athletics, Kylia Carter, mother of former Duke basketball star Wendell Carter, compared the current system of NCAA basketball to slavery and a prison system.

"When you remove all the bling and the bells and the sneakers and all that," she said, "you've paid for a child to come to your school to do what you wanted them to do for you, for free, and you made a lot of money when he did that, and you've got all these rules in place that say he cannot share in any of that. The only other time when labor does not get paid but yet someone else gets profits and the labor is black and the profit is white, is in slavery.

"To be honest with you," she said, "it's nauseating."

With her voice cracking at times, Carter humanized an otherwise agenda-filled morning that focused on reactions to the Rice Commission's recent report and the troubles that have plagued college basketball for decades, forcing the push for real reform following a highly publicized FBI investigation this past fall.

Donald Remy, the NCAA's chief legal officer, said the goal is to have the recommendations of the Rice Commission structured so they can be implemented by next basketball season, saying, "This is not the NCAA as usual," and "work has already begun." Carter's message, though, was that the societal and race-related problems that plague many athletes and their families run deeper than anything that could possibly be changed by August.

Carter, who played basketball at and graduated from Ole Miss, paused to collect herself and her thoughts as she told a crowded conference room filled with mainly white high-ranking university and NCAA officials about her grandmother and mother working on cotton fields in Mississippi.

"This would be even harder to say in the crowd, but I can say it here," she said in a hallway following the meeting. "It feels intentional. It feels like it was built this way intentionally. I can't move that from my thoughts.

"Should the NCAA be removed? Yes, because I don't trust it," she said. "You're not to be trusted because your intentions are clear. Let's call this group in the middle, let's call it something else. Let's put some real reform in there and call it something different and get rid of the current status quo because it's based on indentured servitude."

Former Duke star Wendell Carter's mother slammed the NCAA's system of governance during an emotional speech at the Knight Commission on Intercollegiate Athletics. AP Photo/Gene J. Puskar
Carol Cartwright, president emeritus of Kent State and Bowling Green and a co-chair for the Knight Commission, said Carter "had a very strong point of view."

"We appreciate that," Cartwright said. "We provided a forum for her to express it. We have had similar personal and passionate point of views that have been expressed before."

Carter, whose son Wendell declared for the draft on his 19th birthday and is expected to be a high pick in the NBA draft, said there isn't enough support in place for most student-athletes to make the transition from college to the pros.

"You tell me it's about education, and we're giving you this fabulous education for your son to come to school here, so you're paying him with the education for his talent," she said. "If that's what you're paying him -- you're paying him with education -- why aren't you making sure he gets it? Why aren't you assigning somebody to him so if he is a one-and-done, why didn't you automatically assign him an academic advisor so that when he leaves he's got someone in his ear talking to him about the value of that education he left behind? Wendell doesn't have that problem because I'm going to be there like a jackhammer, but all of the other kids, the thing you pay them to come to your school and do, most of them don't ever get it."

Carter said paying the players won't solve the problem.

"If you pay the players and kept the system like it is, it would still destroy them -- it would just destroy them faster," she said. "That's not the solution. Don't get me wrong, it helps, but not without educating them on this process.

"The part that baffles me ... when you leave high school and prepare for college, and then going onto the pros, that whole process is not written down anywhere."

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ESPECIALLY major d1 n1ggas, football / bball where the 99% of the money is made...

i graduated... better than most in student debt cause i went to CC first


yeah... you not getting what you worth. You're absolute right.

but you getting EVERYTHING else!

no disrespect to Mrs Carter but To compare that shyt to slavery is some disrespectful shyt. if anything it's a unpaid internship job with tons of benefits.



- Alumni, business connections and networking for life (the REAL benefit to the college and more important than any degree)


- Tuition free. you can always go back if balling doesnt work out

- you still getting money under the table

+ all the other shyt we dont gotta mention...
 
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I don't. I know what they mean. Also, also slavery wasn't the same. The shyt we experienced here was the most extreme form of it.
 

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ESPECIALLY major d1 n1ggas, football / bball where the 99% of the money is made...

i graduated... better than most in student debt cause i went to CC first


yeah... you not getting what you worth. You're absolute right.

but you getting EVERYTHING else!

no disrespect to Mrs Carter but To compare that shyt to slavery is some disrespectful shyt. if anything it's a unpaid internship job with tons of benefits.



- Alumni, business connections and networking for life (the REAL benefit to the college and more important than any degree)


- Tuition free. you can always go back if balling doesnt work out

- you still getting money under the table

+ all the other shyt we dont gotta mention..
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I have never heard a black person having a problem with comparing NCAA players to slaves:mjpls:.

Obviously its not in the literal sense but way too many similarities to downplay that shyt.
 

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Majority of student athletes not going pro so an opportunity for a free education is payment

When I was college the athletes had it made not like they were living destitute out here

Best housing, own private facilities to eat workout and study etc, groupies on deck...
Not to mention the gift bags and kickbacks you know they were getting
 

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Majority of student athletes not going pro so an opportunity for a free education is payment

When I was college the athletes had it made not like they were living destitute out here

Best housing, own private facilities to eat workout and study etc, groupies on deck...
Not to mention the gift bags and kickbacks you know they were getting
Yeah, D-1 athletes eat good. But the NCAA more than makes their money back off these players even when you take into account free tuition.
 

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I don't. I know what they mean. Also, also slavery wasn't the same. The shyt we experienced here was the most extreme form of it.

This is a good point. NCAA is more similar to “classical” forms of slavery rather than chattel slavery. Slavery in the America’s was a new system. One far more brutal and dehumanizing than its predecessors.
 

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Yeah, D-1 athletes eat good. But the NCAA more than makes their money back off these players even when you take into account free tuition.
Only real money makers are big basketball football and some baseball programs
Should they pay them and not all the other athletes on campus?
 
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It’s called hyperbole, but you go make a million dollars for somebody and only get 3 years of school and no degree out of it.

breh its a horrible analogy period....

1st of all that nikka CHOSE to go to duke...he wasnt forced....any player that goes there has offers to go damn near anywhere....so yeah moms is tripping....

whether or not they should get paid is a whole other argument
 

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Honestly, yes. I ain't even no "get a offended" type nikka like dat but dat shyt be trippin me out hearin nikkas compare shyt that goes on nowadays to slavery.

shyt is wild disrespectful and str8 up hoe-ish to compare any of this to da shyt our ancestors actually had to go through.
 

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So if she knew all of this, why did she send her son to college?

It's like anything in college. The tools are there at your disposal-- if you wanna use it. They're gonna help people they feel wanna be helped. If you're there as a one-and-done, education for what will more or less be a semester of your time is not exactly something you're gonna value. They're gonna help those in it for the long haul. It's like being in high school and telling everyone you're gonna drop out the next semester yet expecting the faculty to put in that much more work on you than the kids gunnin for college scholarships.
 
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