All Republicans Want in Exchange for Not Destroying the Economy Is Everything

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All Republicans Want in Exchange for Not Destroying the Economy Is Everything
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Republicans gave The National Review a draft of their starting point for negotiations with President Obama on the debt ceiling. It's jaw-dropping.

A quick reminder: the debt ceiling is the amount the government is allowed to borrow in order to pay bills accrued by Congress. Here is what the Republicans offer:

  • Suspend the debt limit until December 2014.
  • Delay Obamacare for a year.
  • Include tax reform measures along the lines of the Rep. Paul Ryan principles.
  • Agree to a slew of environmental issues: Approve the Keystone pipeline, kill EPA clean air and climate regulations, increase drilling.
  • Approve "regulatory reforms" including the REINS Act, which would basically gut the executive authority to make any regulations.
  • Implement spending cuts, including reforming retirement programs, the child tax credit ("to prevent fraud"), and, of course, ending Dodd-Frank.
  • Reforming health spending, including tort reform.
This is literally every policy priority of the Republican Party. This is hostage-taking, not politics. "We have been unable to pass our core priorities because voters keep electing Democrats to the Senate and the White House so we are asking that in order to prevent the economic catastrophe of a debt ceiling default, you sign off on doing everything we have ever wanted, is that OK with you, yes / no?"

Some of these things, we will also note, are complete non-starters from a legal perspective. The EPA climate regulations, for example, are essentially mandated by the Supreme Court. George W. Bush dragged his feet on implementing regulations, but lawsuits from various environmental organizations helped force the issue. Adding that to a completely unrelated political measure is pure denial.

We understand that the point of negotiations is to start from an extreme position and then navigate toward a compromise. But it is helpful if you also enter negotiations appearing to be rational.

Obama, for his part, has staked out an extreme position as well: no deals. And he probably means it; a few weeks ago, he said this to ABC's George Stephanopoulos, via Crooks and Liars.

"If we continue to set a precedent in which a president — any president, a Republican president, a Democratic president — where the opposing party controls the House of Representatives, if that president is in a situation in which each time the United States is called upon to pay its bills the other party can simply sit there and say, 'Well, we're not gonna pay the bills unless you give us what we want,' that changes the constitutional structure of this government entirely." :obama: (finally)

Which is exactly what the Republicans are advocating. Unable to win elections to regain the Senate — ironically in part because the deeply conservative base supported unelectable Senate candidates in primaries — they've created their Amazon wish list of things, presumably hoping that the president might buy one or two. But unfortunately, he's at his credit limit.

Photo: Rep. Michele Bachmann. (AP)

I just, I don't even...at some point the adults in the room have to stand up. At some point.
 

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when are the people going to rebel and hold these people accountable?

by accountable i dont mean taking over a park for a year, I mean .. :scheme: (no NSA)
 

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I would feel like this if it was Democrats doing this to George Bush. The end result is 'fukk America and it's people who allow us the privilege to have a say in this on their behalf.....Lets try to 'win' something instead."

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republicans are finished as a national party. the only reason they control the house is because of gerrymandering, but they will lose the house in 2020 if not sooner. beyond that, they're simply not electable on the national level. they stand no chance of taking back the senate and the white house is just as distant a reward. that's why i always :heh: when republican idiots say people like rand paul or ted cruz or even chris christie stand a chance of winning in 2016. they don't seem to grasp how removed they are from the american public, on just about every point of policy - environment, jobs, taxes, women, etc.
 

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Well, the Keystone pipeline is one way to reduce dependency on foreign oil. Fluctuations in crude oil prices affects everyone who is low and middle income. Most low and middle income Americans rely on cars, trucks and public transportation to get around. Also, the tons of consumer products are shipped around the country on truck and rail. When gas prices go up, so do transportation costs, and ultimately, retail costs of consumer goods. And then when gas prices go up in the future, like to $5 a gallon, $6 a gallon, people are going to be crying why we didn't do the Keystone pipeline earlier.
 

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I say call the bluff. Let Americans FEEL the damage the rethugs (an actually this process in general) lead to. I suspect Obama will fold though. At this point, i'm :tinfoil: about the collusion. Until I see some results in terms of standing his ground Obama is part of the problem in my eyes.

I had a boss used to tell me, "it takes 10 "that a boys" to make up for 1 fuk up" I hold this to be true in life. While Obama has had a few "that a boys" he has dropped the ball as i see it far more often.
 
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I say call the bluff. Let Americans FEEL the damage the rethugs (an actually this process in general) lead to. I suspect Obama will fold though. At this point, i'm :tinfoil: about the collusion. Until I see some results in terms of standing his ground Obama is part of the problem in my eyes.

I had a boss used to tell me, "it takes 10 "that a boys" to make up for 1 fuk up" I hold this to be true in life. While Obama has had a few "that a boys" he has dropped the ball as i see it far more often.
That argument doesn't fly when you take I to consideration that Obama has been hamstrung by a congress unwilling to work with him. Obama has had to administer his presidency through executive action precisely because of the tea party controlled house. Look at his executive orders and tell me Obama has dropped the ball. He hasn't. Whether its women or race, the environment or jobs, Obama has done a great job as president - but there is only so much he can do against an incorrigibly hostile legislative body.
 

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Well, the Keystone pipeline is one way to reduce dependency on foreign oil. Fluctuations in crude oil prices affects everyone who is low and middle income. Most low and middle income Americans rely on cars, trucks and public transportation to get around. Also, the tons of consumer products are shipped around the country on truck and rail. When gas prices go up, so do transportation costs, and ultimately, retail costs of consumer goods. And then when gas prices go up in the future, like to $5 a gallon, $6 a gallon, people are going to be crying why we didn't do the Keystone pipeline earlier.

jobs will go to Canada
 
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