Soto or Nowhere: The Official 2024 New York Yankees Off-Season Thread
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Mantis Toboggan M.D.
Drink wolf cola
His average would be second on this team while his ops would be third. Surely the Yankees didn’t pay for making that trade. Let me go do some research.Left handed too.
*sees the Yankees have the worst production in the big leagues out of left field since 2021 and third base isn’t much better*
Surely the guy who made that trade was fired for it
@Mantis Toboggan M.D.
Josh Smith is 2nd among 3B in wOBA, behind just Rafael Devers.
Want another tidbit?
In January of 2019, Brian Cashman traded away Sonny Gray (who the team misused) and part of the return was a 2019 1st round compensation pick.
Wanna know who they chose? TJ Sikkema, at pick 38 overall.
Wanna know which player went 42nd overall?
Gunnar Henderson.
Btw TJ Sikkema is in High A Ball with the Reds now. He's 25 years old.
Josh Smith is 2nd among 3B in wOBA, behind just Rafael Devers.
Want another tidbit?
In January of 2019, Brian Cashman traded away Sonny Gray (who the team misused) and part of the return was a 2019 1st round compensation pick.
Wanna know who they chose? TJ Sikkema, at pick 38 overall.
Wanna know which player went 42nd overall?
Gunnar Henderson.
Btw TJ Sikkema is in High A Ball with the Reds now. He's 25 years old.
Mantis Toboggan M.D.
Drink wolf cola
No GM gets less out of their draft picks. I just don’t get how anyone would let him keep his job after how many mistakes he’s made since 2018. Even with the Soto trade it’s by far the worst 6-7 year run I’ve ever seen a GM in any sport have. Post 2007 Joe Dumars in Detroit was better than this. $300 million payroll and he’s got 3 good batters, maybe 3 good starters & 1 average starter, no good relievers, and just 3-4 guys who came up through the farm system at all with 1 being a bust (Volpe) and 2 being too early to tell (Wells and Rice) while one of said guys is only playing because their super washed up first baseman is hurt and can’t play because you know Rizzo would still be starting if he didn’t break his arm.
2010: Yankees took Cito Culver. Noah Syndergaard, Taijuan Walker and Nick Castellanos were on the board.
2011: Yankees took Dante Bichette Jr. Blake Snell went 1 pick later.
2012: Yankees took Ty Hensley. Jose Berrios, Zach Eflin, Mitch Haniger, Joey Gallo (LOL), Lance McCullers, Matt Olson were on the board.
2013: Yankees took Eric Jagielo. Thankfully they got Aaron Judge 6 picks later. Then after Judge they took Ian Clarkin. Sean Manaea was on the board.
2014: No 1st round picks
2015: Yankees took James Kaprelian. Not sure I can bash Cashman here. Kaprelian went 16th. Walker Buehler went 24th. And I can't fault him that Austin Riley became something after going 41st overall.
2016: Same story as 2015. Blake Rutherford at 18. Will Smith to the Dodgers at 32nd. Eh. Okay. Cole Ragans went to the Rangers at 30th if you want to nitpick that.
2017: Yankees took Clark Schmidt. I'd say this is working out well. We'll see if he can regain the momentum once he's healthy.
2018: Yankees took Anthony Seigler. Nico Horner, Triston Casas, Shane McClanahan on the board. Kill me now.
2019: See earlier post. Yankees took Anthony Volpe and TJ Sikkema. Not long after Baltimore took Gunnar Henderson.
2020: Yankees took Austin Wells. Bobby Miller, Jordan Westburg, Jared Jones (a stretch) on the board.
I should stop here. At this point players drafted post 2020 are too young to have made any real impact.
I'll just say that of their 1st round picks since, only Spencer Jones is currently ranked in the Top 100. The others (Jasson Dominguez and Chase Hampton) were international signings and late round.
The point of this comment is not to say Cashman should have drafted all those other players who became good. You can't hit on every pick.
But you can't miss on your picks this badly either.
When you have 26 years on the job and you draft that many duds....my man...you have a serious inability to identify and develop talent.
Period.
2011: Yankees took Dante Bichette Jr. Blake Snell went 1 pick later.
2012: Yankees took Ty Hensley. Jose Berrios, Zach Eflin, Mitch Haniger, Joey Gallo (LOL), Lance McCullers, Matt Olson were on the board.
2013: Yankees took Eric Jagielo. Thankfully they got Aaron Judge 6 picks later. Then after Judge they took Ian Clarkin. Sean Manaea was on the board.
2014: No 1st round picks
2015: Yankees took James Kaprelian. Not sure I can bash Cashman here. Kaprelian went 16th. Walker Buehler went 24th. And I can't fault him that Austin Riley became something after going 41st overall.
2016: Same story as 2015. Blake Rutherford at 18. Will Smith to the Dodgers at 32nd. Eh. Okay. Cole Ragans went to the Rangers at 30th if you want to nitpick that.
2017: Yankees took Clark Schmidt. I'd say this is working out well. We'll see if he can regain the momentum once he's healthy.
2018: Yankees took Anthony Seigler. Nico Horner, Triston Casas, Shane McClanahan on the board. Kill me now.
2019: See earlier post. Yankees took Anthony Volpe and TJ Sikkema. Not long after Baltimore took Gunnar Henderson.
2020: Yankees took Austin Wells. Bobby Miller, Jordan Westburg, Jared Jones (a stretch) on the board.
I should stop here. At this point players drafted post 2020 are too young to have made any real impact.
I'll just say that of their 1st round picks since, only Spencer Jones is currently ranked in the Top 100. The others (Jasson Dominguez and Chase Hampton) were international signings and late round.
The point of this comment is not to say Cashman should have drafted all those other players who became good. You can't hit on every pick.
But you can't miss on your picks this badly either.
When you have 26 years on the job and you draft that many duds....my man...you have a serious inability to identify and develop talent.
Period.
Mantis Toboggan M.D.
Drink wolf cola
To compound it, here’s what you wrote last year describing 1998-2009:
To be clear: baseball draft picks are historically volatile. Even the best prospects fail. And in some cases, players can refuse to sign for various reasons. Still, GMs are responsible for their choices.
1998:
Andy Brown Of - Never reached the majors.
Mark Prior RHP (compensation pick) - Could not agree with the Yankees on a contract. Went to college instead.
1999:
Dave Walling RHP - Never reached the majors.
2000:
Dave Parrish C - Never reached the majors.
2001:
John Ford-Griffin OF - Played 13 major league games... with the Toronto Blue Jays. Wound up part of a deal that later brought Jeff Weaver to the Yankees.
Bronson Sardinha SS - Played 10 major league games.
John Skaggs RHP - Never reached the majors.
2002: No 1st round draft picks
2003:
Eric Duncan 3B - Never reached the majors. (To make matters worse, in 2001, several picks after the Yankees chose Sardinha, the Mets took David Wright).
2004:
Phil Hughes RHP - 56-50 record with a 4.53 ERA across 182 games with the Yankees.
Jon Poterson C - Never reached the majors
Jeff Marquez RHP - Traded in a package that brought the Yankees Nick Swisher. Actually wound up pitching 4 innings for the Yankees in 2011 out of 5 total innings.
2005:
CJ Henry SS - Never reached the majors.
2006:
lan Kennedy RHP - 1-4 record with a 6.03 ERA across 14 games with the Yankees. Part of trade to get Curtis Granderson.
Joba Chamberlain RHP - Come on, man. I don't have to explain this, right?
2007:
Andrew Brackman RHP - Pitched 2.1 innings for the major league team. The Yankees drafted Brackman knowing he needed Tommy John surgery.
2008:
Gerrit Cole RHP - Decided to go to college instead. Cole's family had money and probably didn't feel the need to rush to the pros just yet. That's the rumor anyway.
Jeremy Bleich RHP - Pitched 0.1 major league innings for the Oakland Athletics in 2018. That's it.
2009:
Slade Heathcott OF - Hit .400/.429/.720 in 17 games in 2015.
Heathcott had trouble staying healthy and it didn't help that the Yankees had a clusterfukk of outfielders and no real way to guarantee him playing time anyway. This one stings not only because Heathcott didn't work out, but because 4 picks earlier the Los Angeles Angels took Mike Trout...with a compensation pick from the Yankees for signing Mark Teixeira the previous winter.
I'll stop here because the next 13 years have been embarrassing, so I'l summarize this as best I can.
From 2010 to 2020, the Yankees made 14 first round picks. Of those 14, ten of them have not reached the majors.
Their Top Prospect, Jasson Dominguez, is currently in AA hitting .228.352/.374 in 90 games.
Now there's the thing. Drafting players is difficult. Developing players is difficult. Working out good trades and signing free agents is difficult. But we're not talking about a franchise with meager resources like the Pittsburgh Pirates or Kansas City Royals here. If you're the New York Yankees, you have to be held to a much, MUCH higher standard here.
So the final question is.... after 26 years on the job.... what the fukk does Brian Cashman have to do to get fired? Because he seemingly doesn't have any argument for keeping his job.
27 years of pure incompetence. How can anyone defend this?
holidayinn21
:SmugMoneyMike:
I actually have no issues with Verdgo leading off
Ben Rice looked solid when first came up. So he should do okay batting 4th I guess
And it'd be nice if the starters didn't put them in a hole early in the game
Ben Rice looked solid when first came up. So he should do okay batting 4th I guess
And it'd be nice if the starters didn't put them in a hole early in the game
holidayinn21
:SmugMoneyMike:
Once again. Boone looks to steal outs and let's the game get away. No feel for the game
7 years and still incompetent
7 years and still incompetent
NYChase718
Veteran
Starting Pitching is worthless
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
g-ice
aka #DiamondNightmare
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
Licey vs. Aguilas will be at Yankee Stadium this November
