Alexander Ovechkin scores 800! Chasing Gretzky’s 894 goal record

[Millan]

Gretzky was playing against plumbers.

 

[Brozay]

Longevity records

hes leading the league in goals right now

 

[jdubnyce]

Lol
You could score 50 goals a year for 15 years and only end up with 750

Looked it up because I was curious

Gretzky scored 749 goals in 13 years
He scored over 70 goals per season 4 straight seasons
He scored 92 goals in a one season

If you took away all his goals scored, he's still the all time points leader based off his assists alone

 

[Tony D'Amato]

Damn, this thread kinda old. Whats takin so long

 

[SoSoSlick]

Damn, this thread kinda old. Whats takin so long

He's on fire this year so far but just got a injury Monday and out a few weeks apparently.

 

[MikelArteta]

Gretzsky>>>>

yeah i mean no one is touching gretzky no one in the history of the nhl even has 2000 points , gretzky is closer to 3000 points than anyone beside jagr was to 2000 points

sidney crosby, and connor mcdavid might be the only ones who might reach 2000 points and even still they would be like 857 behind gretzky

 

[Bboystyle]

Looked it up because I was curious

Gretzky scored 749 goals in 13 years
He scored over 70 goals per season 4 straight seasons
He scored 92 goals in a one season

If you took away all his goals scored, he's still the all time points leader based off his assists alone

Hes one of the goats in sports for a reason

He had a young nikka like me watching Kings games and i dont even fukk with hockey

 

[BucciMane]

Lol
You could score 50 goals a year for 15 years and only end up with 750

Some people are acting like he’s Mark Recchi. .


I remember one of the forums I used to post on, many would were saying GOATvechkin was washed in 2013..

 

[Jplaya2023]

NO ONE CARED ABOUT THE TOTAL PTS
RECORD BEFORE BRON BROKE IT.

MJ AND MALONE COULD HAVE
CHASED IT DOWN IF IT WAS A GOAL



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Mike even said if he cared about stats he would have Never retired twice. I thoughr this was common knowledge to folks who knew mike. It was always about 10 scoring titles not the total points

 

[BucciMane]

Looked it up because I was curious

Gretzky scored 749 goals in 13 years
He scored over 70 goals per season 4 straight seasons
He scored 92 goals in a one season

If you took away all his goals scored, he's still the all time points leader based off his assists alone

The points record is incredible and will likely never be touched unless there are significant rule changes.

And, no to diminish what Gretzky did, but a few things.

1. Scoring was significantly higher during his playing career.

2. There is more quality depth now than in the 80’s and 90’s. Your third liners now can actually keep up and compete. That makes a big difference.

3. He played with Kuri, Glenn Anderson, Mark Messier, and Paul Coffey, all HOF players. Of course they benefited greatly from him as well. Ovechkin has played with Backstom Mike Green for high offensive producers.

4. The biggest thing to me is that goalies decades ago looked like stick figures and now they look like the damn Terminator. Yes, sticks and skates are at a much higher quality now and benefit players today greatly, but the advantage for players going against those stick figures was a bigger advantage.




Bobby Orr >>>>>>>>.

 

[Osmosis]

Mike even said if he cared about stats he would have Never retired twice. I thoughr this was common knowledge to folks who knew mike. It was always about 10 scoring titles not the total points

Mike could never break it. He wasn’t built to play 20 consecutive years.. That’s why he had to retire twice.

 

[MikelArteta]

Some people are acting like he’s Mark Recchi. .


I remember one of the forums I used to post on, many would were saying GOATvechkin was washed in 2013..

word mark recci to me was a scrub
soored more than 40 goals 3 times and that was in the early nineties, then stayed around another like 16 years scoring like 20-25 goals a season

 

[MikelArteta]

The points record is incredible and will likely never be touched unless there are significant rule changes.

And, no to diminish what Gretzky did, but a few things.

1. Scoring was significantly higher during his playing career.

2. There is more quality depth now than in the 80’s and 90’s. Your third liners now can actually keep up and compete. That makes a big difference.

3. He played with Kuri, Glenn Anderson, Mark Messier, and Paul Coffey, all HOF players. Of course they benefited greatly from him as well. Ovechkin has played with Backstom Mike Green for high offensive producers.

4. The biggest thing to me is that goalies decades ago looked like stick figures and now they look like the damn Terminator. Yes, sticks and skates are at a much higher quality now and benefit players today greatly, but the advantage for players going against those stick figures was a bigger advantage.




Bobby Orr >>>>>>>>.

you can't really compare eras, players never had the comfort dudes nowadays do. You had legit goons wanting to take your head off, now 160lb dudes are living in front of the net etc., my breh jarome iginla would have prob had 700 goals if majority of his career he wasn't stuck in teh trap era

Even in those gretzky days Players were using wood sticks, some dudes were playing without helmets, no visors, and big ol goons

and lets be real without gretzky, kurri and glen anderson wouldn't be nothing those brehs are like the jonathan chechooo , kevin stevens, chris kunitz , zach hyman etc. average players who played with a bonafide star and numbers got inflated.

We all see chechoo without thornton , kevin stevens without lemieux, kunitz without crosby, hyman without conor mcdavid

also coaching analytics, corsi etc. all that wasn't around back then

 

[BucciMane]

you can't really compare eras, players never had the comfort dudes nowadays do. You had legit goons wanting to take your head off, now 160lb dudes are living in front of the net etc., my breh jarome iginla would have prob had 700 goals if majority of his career he wasn't stuck in teh trap era

Even in those gretzky days Players were using wood sticks, some dudes were playing without helmets, no visors, and big ol goons

and lets be real without gretzky, kurri and glen anderson wouldn't be nothing those brehs are like the jonathan chechooo , kevin stevens, chris kunitz , zach hyman etc. average players who played with a bonafide star and numbers got inflated.

We all see chechoo without thornton , kevin stevens without lemieux, kunitz without crosby, hyman without conor mcdavid

also coaching analytics, corsi etc. all that wasn't around back then

I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said. I think hockey is the most difficult sport to compare eras with.

It feels kind of weird even trying to use Kurtis, Coffey, and Anderson in a discussion about Gretzky because he obviously impacted them much more than vice versa.

Equipment has changed so much over the years, and the focus on player safety is a massive difference as well. Ovechkin would have thrived in the Gretzky era though as he’s a tank and would go to to toe with the enforcers of that era.

Cant disrespect Gretzky though as I think he’s the clearest “GOAT” out of the four major U.S. sports.

 

[BucciMane]

word mark recci to me was a scrub
soored more than 40 goals 3 times and that was in the early nineties, then stayed around another like 16 years scoring like 20-25 goals a season

He’s a better version of a Frank Gore..

He was a beast at deflections and standing in front of the crease though.

However, I don’t believe he was a HOF caliber player. I wouldn’t have voted him in.