Alan Fisher explains the lies around NY Governor Kathy Hochul canceling congestion pricing in LOWER Manhattan.

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Alan Fisher explains the bullshyt lies and excuses for cancelling the congestion pricing plan.
And he explains how this will have negative consequences for other infrastructure plans for New Yorkers elsewhere in the city.

I encourage anyone to watch the video before commenting, since much of the public is woefully misinformed about what this plan was, and the consequences of its cancellation.

 

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Alan Fisher explains the bullshyt lies and excuses for cancelling the congestion pricing plan.
And he explains how this will have negative consequences for other infrastructure plans for New Yorkers elsewhere in the city.

I encourage anyone to watch the video before commenting, since much of the public is woefully misinformed about what this plan was, and the consequences of its cancellation.





So I watched this video.



Man rants and rants and tries to oversimplify things.

Rich dudes driving their Mercedes from the Hamptons into Manhattan aren't the only ones who have been complaining about this, congrats. Plenty of others have been documented by various outlets but I guess that dude just never saw them.


Oh no, the 2nd Avenue Subway might not get finished!
2nd Avenue Subway has been in the works since 1920 ... :hmm:






I did learn that the Netherlands has a higher car ownership rate for the next time someone posts one of those bike propaganda videos though. :laugh:
 

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she seems slow and unlikable as fukk

I will never understand NY politics

The Jews flew her to Israel to make her kiss the ring and killed her dad while she was en route to make it clear they wasn’t fukking around.

New York politics.
 

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How much will drivers be charged?​

The final tolling structure is based on recommendations by the advisory panel:

Most passenger vehicles and passenger-type vehicles with commercial license plates would be charged a $15 toll during the peak period (5 a.m. to 9 p.m. on weekdays and 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. on weekends), and $3.75 overnight. Those vehicles would be charged only once a day.


Trucks and buses would be charged a $24 or $36 toll in the peak period, depending on their size and purpose. Overnight tolls would be $6 and $8

Motorcycles would be charged $7.50, no more than once per day

Passengers would be charged a toll of $1.25 per trip for taxis, green cabs, and for-hire vehicles, and $2.50 per trip for trips dispatched by high-volume for-hire services such as Uber and Lyft. There would be no nighttime discounts.

Qualifying authorized emergency vehicles, qualifying vehicles transporting a person with disabilities, specialized government vehicles, and transit and commuter buses would be exempted from the CBD toll

Low-income vehicle owners who qualify and register with MTA would receive a 50% discount on the peak auto toll beginning with the 11th trip taken in a calendar month


Are there exemptions or discounts?​

Some exceptions include:

Emergency vehicles, specialized city vehicles, and buses with regular public routes or city school contracts.

Vehicles carrying disabled people and certain low-income commuters.

Low-income drivers are eligible for discounts and tax credits.

The $1 billion in toll revenue mandated by the state law meant that eliminating charges for one group would increase the price for everyone else, so most requests for exceptions weren't granted.
 
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How much will drivers be charged?​

The final tolling structure is based on recommendations by the advisory panel:

Most passenger vehicles and passenger-type vehicles with commercial license plates would be charged a $15 toll during the peak period (5 a.m. to 9 p.m. on weekdays and 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. on weekends), and $3.75 overnight. Those vehicles would be charged only once a day.


Trucks and buses would be charged a $24 or $36 toll in the peak period, depending on their size and purpose. Overnight tolls would be $6 and $8

Motorcycles would be charged $7.50, no more than once per day

Passengers would be charged a toll of $1.25 per trip for taxis, green cabs, and for-hire vehicles, and $2.50 per trip for trips dispatched by high-volume for-hire services such as Uber and Lyft. There would be no nighttime discounts.

Qualifying authorized emergency vehicles, qualifying vehicles transporting a person with disabilities, specialized government vehicles, and transit and commuter buses would be exempted from the CBD toll

Low-income vehicle owners who qualify and register with MTA would receive a 50% discount on the peak auto toll beginning with the 11th trip taken in a calendar month

A recent Siena College survey found that 64% of people in New York oppose the $15 toll to drive below 60th Street in Manhattan.




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You've pointed out absolutely zero lies or flaws in Alan Fisher's commentary though.
So you're just in here commenting to comment.

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64 percent of New Yorkers drive their Mercedes from Manhattan to the Hamptons, huh?
 

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New York City Traffic Is Horrendous. There’s No Relief in Sight.​


Delayed congestion-pricing plan sparks frustration; ‘We are falling behind here in New York’​

Traffic and pedestrians move through Midtown Manhattan. Video: WW News/Getty Images

By Joseph De Avila

and Max Rust

Updated June 12, 2024 5:13 pm ET

In the battle of man vs. machine, man is rapidly catching up in the car-jammed streets at the heart of New York City.

As state and local officials are battling over a ditched plan to unclog Manhattan’s sclerotic arteries, the average travel speed in Midtown fell to 4.5 miles an hour in May, the lowest ever recorded for the month, said Sam Schwartz, a former New York City Department of Transportation official who has tracked traffic trends in the metropolis since the 1970s. It was the fifth straight record month this year, with 2024 shaping up to be the worst on record for Midtown Manhattan traffic.

“We are approaching walking speeds,” Schwartz said.

There is no relief in sight from the steady stream of commuter vehicles, delivery trucks, taxis and Ubers and Lyfts that pour onto the island everyday. Last week, New York Gov. Kathy Hochul shelved the state’s congestion-pricing tolling plan, which would have charged drivers $15 to enter Manhattan’s business district.

The strategy was projected to take 100,000 cars off the streets daily. About 802,000 people traveled by vehicle to Manhattan’s business district on a typical fall business day in 2022, according to the most recent figures from the New York Metropolitan Transportation Council.

The pull back on congestion pricing raises questions about what officials can do to curb Manhattan traffic and all the problems that come with it like crashes involving pedestrians and the release of harmful pollutants in the air. Pro-congestion pricing advocates say there is no comparable measure available that can make the same impact.

Vehicular trips to downtown Manhattan are up 11% compared with 2019, according to Inrix, a transportation-research firm. Traffic on bridges and tunnels in New York City have also returned to prepandemic levels, according to the Metropolitan Transportation Authority.

Manhattan's Central Business District is one of the most congested districts in the U.S.​

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Sources: Inrix (average vehicle speeds); Metropolitan Transportation Authority; New York Metropolitan Transportation Council

Max Rust/THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

New York’s congestion-pricing plan, which would have been the first in the nation, was signed into law in 2019 by Gov. Andrew Cuomo. In addition to cutting down the number of cars and trucks on the road, the proceeds from the toll was intended to fund public transportation.

Hochul said she put an indefinite pause on congestion pricing because she was concerned about the rising cost of living and New York’s economic recovery from the Covid-19 pandemic. Cuomo has also backed away from congestion pricing and said the city needs a more robust economic rebound before proceeding with the tolling plan.

The MTA said Monday it will rein in capital projects to make up for the revenue shortfall from canceling the tolling plan.

Congestion pricing also faced stiff opposition from unions, some business owners and New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy. Opponents said the toll was unfair for commuters and businesses that needed to be on the road.

A spokesman for Hochul didn’t respond to requests for comment.

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Vehicles traffic along First Avenue in Manhattan. PHOTO: CHARLY TRIBALLEAU/AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE/GETTY IMAGES

Manhattan’s traffic has been terrible for decades, said Lucius Riccio, a former commissioner of New York City’s Department of Transportation

“I can’t remember a time when anybody said traffic in New York City was wonderful,” Riccio said. “Nobody has ever said ‘oh let’s go for a ride down Fifth Avenue in the middle of the day just to see the sights.’”

Riccio said congestion pricing perhaps could have helped with traffic problems. Making for-hire vehicles like Ubers and Lyfts pay fees would drive down the number of vehicles clogging up streets during the middle of the day, he said.

Remote work is still having an impact on commuting patterns with fewer employees trekking into the office on a daily basis. Visits to office buildings were down 17% in March 2024 compared with March 2019, according to Placer.ai’s Nationwide Office Building Index.

Congestion has increased because fewer commuters from New Jersey are taking buses and trains and are instead driving to work alone, Schwartz said.

Truck traffic has also surpassed prepandemic levels, driven in part by vehicles making e-commerce deliveries. Schwartz said. One truck adds the equivalent of two to three cars to the roadways, exacerbating congestion, he said.

Traffic piles up on the Manhattan-bound lanes of the Queensboro bridge in New York City. Video: Tomas Abad/Getty Images

Congestion in Midtown Manhattan is a drag on the economy, the environment and public health in the region, said Danny Pearlstein, policy and communications director for the Riders Alliance, a public-transit advocacy group that supports congestion pricing.

Removing 100,000 cars from the road would have reduced the risk of crashes for pedestrians and bicyclists, Pearlstein said. About 100 pedestrians were killed in car crashes in 2023 and roughly 8,600 were injured, according to New York City figures.

“It’s part of the traffic epidemic that is killing or maiming New Yorkers,” Pearlstein said.

Not removing the 100,000 or more cars and trucks from the road has serious implications for the greater New York region, said Kate Slevin, executive vice president for the Regional Plan Association, a regional planning group. Paris and London are among the major cities across the world that have implemented congestion pricing to curb traffic.

“We fear we are falling behind here in New York,” Slevin said. “Without congestion pricing, we don’t really have a long-term plan to manage traffic congestion.”

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Congestion in Midtown Manhattan is a drag on the economy, the environment and public health in the region, critics say. PHOTO: SPENCER PLATT/GETTY IMAGES

—Brian McGill contributed to this article.

Write to Joseph De Avila at joseph.deavila@wsj.com and Max Rust at max.rust@wsj.com

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Appeared in the June 13, 2024, print edition as 'New York City Traffic Slows To a New Degree of Terrible'.
 
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