A God Builds a Castle With Barnes and a Vassell While An Alien Looks For His Ship - The Official 2024-2025 San Antonio Spurs Season Thread

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This was expected to be a season of development for the Spurs.

They got off to a good start, playing .500 basketball.
And now you're all in here losing your shyt, wishing for trades and mad they didn't get Trae Young or whoever.

Y'all sounding like Knicks fans right now. The tiniest hint that success is around the corner and y'all wanna trade for a superstar, thinking you can win the championship.

Settle down.

I'm sure moves will happen. But they don't need to happen right now.
It all really comes down to the 25 draft. By not making a move last offseason, the team pushed all their chips in on this summer's draft. The ATL pick is looking to be mid-late teens at this juncture. The Chicago pick is in danger of not conveying (top-10 protected). Our own pick is looking to be around 10 (the losses this year help us to make our pick better and ideally keep Chicago out of the top 10). The Charlotte first was never going to convey.

So what do we do with (at best) the number 10, 11 and 14 picks in the draft this summer. Here's what ESPN insider currently has us projected at:

10. San Antonio Spurs

Tre Johnson, SG, Texas
Freshman
Season averages:
18.4 points (46.0% FG), 2.7 rebounds, 2.3 assists

Potentially equipped with three first-round picks, the Spurs should have an opportunity to stockpile young talent, or consolidate some of their draft capital to move around if they choose. The offensively gifted Johnson has continued to look like a lottery talent, shouldering a big role at Texas and making 40% of his 3s.

He's a sweet shooter who can make tough shots and projects to be a threat away from the ball, as well. The primary concern is what else Johnson will do to supply value. He isn't known for making teammates better as a passer and is often content to hunt shots regardless of the situation. He also doesn't contribute much defensively.

Teams are curious if Johnson can break some of those habits and round out his game, but his sheer scoring talent has continued to make him a lottery candidate. -- Woo

14. San Antonio Spurs (via Chicago)​

Liam McNeeley, SG/SF, UConn
Freshman
Season averages:
13.6 points (42.9% FG), 5.8 rebounds, 2.6 assists

This pick would remain with Chicago if it falls inside the top 10, but the Bulls have inched closer to .500 over the past month, making it more feasible that San Antonio could receive it.

McNeeley injured his ankle Jan. 1 and is slated to miss at least the next few weeks. A 26-point performance in a win against Gonzaga at Madison Square Garden was the high watermark of his season. Despite some offensive inconsistency, McNeeley's winning impact is easy to appreciate.

His ability to play a connective role, as a smart passer, capable shooter (37% from 3) and opportunistic scorer with size on the wing, will be attractive to NBA teams as a potential long-term supporting piece. Scouts have told ESPN they'd like to see him be a bit more efficient, but he has acclimated well to the college game. -- Woo

15. San Antonio Spurs (via Atlanta)​

Drake Powell, SG/SF, North Carolina
Freshman
Season averages:
7.4 points (49.4% FG), 3.6 rebounds, 0.9 assists

With three first-round picks (this one coming from the Hawks) and a young roster looking to make the jump to playoff contention, the Spurs likely will be opportunistic in navigating this draft. Adding wing depth likely will be an option, along with exploring trade opportunities.

The Spurs could use a big perimeter defender and might address that with this selection, making Powell an interesting potential fit. Powell is one of the more versatile defenders in this draft class, with the frame, strength and instincts to cover several positions adequately from the wing. Though that hasn't manifested in steals and blocks, his motor and value are obvious, earning him a big role at North Carolina despite his offense needing work.

Powell isn't a major threat playing on the ball and will have to knock down 3-pointers (he's shooting 35% from 3) to carve out a meaningful place in the NBA. His confidence has been up and down this season, but there are positive ingredients for a likely 3-and-D role, presuming his shot comes around. -- Woo
 

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This was expected to be a season of development for the Spurs.

They got off to a good start, playing .500 basketball.
And now you're all in here losing your shyt, wishing for trades and mad they didn't get Trae Young or whoever.

Y'all sounding like Knicks fans right now. The tiniest hint that success is around the corner and y'all wanna trade for a superstar, thinking you can win the championship.

Settle down.

I'm sure moves will happen. But they don't need to happen right now.
The year after after David got drafted, the Spurs set a record for the greatest single-season turnaround in NBA history.

That record stayed intact until it was broken by the Spurs next generational pic with Timmy.

Spurs went 22-60 to secure the rights to Wemby. They then matched that abysmal record the following year with Wemby in-tow.

I know these are things you know but it’s also still something to stay mindful of when folks are getting a little impatient and uneasy with the state of things and wanting to build a team that’s able to stay competitive and keep Wemby…content.
 

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The year after after David got drafted, the Spurs set a record for the greatest single-season turnaround in NBA history.

That record stayed intact until it was broken by the Spurs next generational pic with Timmy.

Spurs went 22-60 to secure the rights to Wemby. They then matched that abysmal record the following year with Wemby in-tow.

I know these are things you know but it’s also still something to stay mindful of when folks are getting a little impatient and uneasy with the state of things and wanting to build a team that’s able to stay competitive and keep Wemby…content.
Honestly I'm in a no-lose situation here.

If the Spurs stay on course and become winners, I look like I had some wisdom.

If the Spurs trade guys and become serious contenders, I look like an idiot, but the Spurs are winning so I'm happy.

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The Chicago pick is in danger of not conveying (top-10 protected).

10. San Antonio Spurs

Tre Johnson, SG, Texas
Freshman
Season averages:
18.4 points (46.0% FG), 2.7 rebounds, 2.3 assists

Potentially equipped with three first-round picks, the Spurs should have an opportunity to stockpile young talent, or consolidate some of their draft capital to move around if they choose. The offensively gifted Johnson has continued to look like a lottery talent, shouldering a big role at Texas and making 40% of his 3s.

He's a sweet shooter who can make tough shots and projects to be a threat away from the ball, as well. The primary concern is what else Johnson will do to supply value. He isn't known for making teammates better as a passer and is often content to hunt shots regardless of the situation. He also doesn't contribute much defensively.

Teams are curious if Johnson can break some of those habits and round out his game, but his sheer scoring talent has continued to make him a lottery candidate. -- Woo

14. San Antonio Spurs (via Chicago)​

Liam McNeeley, SG/SF, UConn
Freshman
Season averages:
13.6 points (42.9% FG), 5.8 rebounds, 2.6 assists

This pick would remain with Chicago if it falls inside the top 10, but the Bulls have inched closer to .500 over the past month, making it more feasible that San Antonio could receive it.

McNeeley injured his ankle Jan. 1 and is slated to miss at least the next few weeks. A 26-point performance in a win against Gonzaga at Madison Square Garden was the high watermark of his season. Despite some offensive inconsistency, McNeeley's winning impact is easy to appreciate.

His ability to play a connective role, as a smart passer, capable shooter (37% from 3) and opportunistic scorer with size on the wing, will be attractive to NBA teams as a potential long-term supporting piece. Scouts have told ESPN they'd like to see him be a bit more efficient, but he has acclimated well to the college game. -- Woo

15. San Antonio Spurs (via Atlanta)​

Drake Powell, SG/SF, North Carolina
Freshman
Season averages:
7.4 points (49.4% FG), 3.6 rebounds, 0.9 assists

With three first-round picks (this one coming from the Hawks) and a young roster looking to make the jump to playoff contention, the Spurs likely will be opportunistic in navigating this draft. Adding wing depth likely will be an option, along with exploring trade opportunities.

The Spurs could use a big perimeter defender and might address that with this selection, making Powell an interesting potential fit. Powell is one of the more versatile defenders in this draft class, with the frame, strength and instincts to cover several positions adequately from the wing. Though that hasn't manifested in steals and blocks, his motor and value are obvious, earning him a big role at North Carolina despite his offense needing work.

Powell isn't a major threat playing on the ball and will have to knock down 3-pointers (he's shooting 35% from 3) to carve out a meaningful place in the NBA. His confidence has been up and down this season, but there are positive ingredients for a likely 3-and-D role, presuming his shot comes around. -- Woo
The Bulls are not going to finish in the Bottom 6 at the rate that they are playing. Congrats, you will be getting our 1st Round Pick.

I'm not even looking prospects for this years draft because I know it's over. At least 2026 is also going to be a loaded draft, and I will no longer have the dumbass DeRozan trade hanging over my team's head and all this toxic discourse over tanking vs playing to win for an entire year for the sake of keeping a pick or not.
 

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2 years ago I would have laughed you out of the room for saying we should trade Devin for Zach Lavine and now Devin is a less efficient version of Zach Lavine :francis:
Vassell has always been less efficient. 2 years ago, LaVine played 77 games putting up 25PPG, 4.5REB, 4.2AST on 48.5/37.5/85 splits

In terms of scoring, I think NBA fans are ignorant to LaVine's abilities. He's one of the most efficient and better shooters in the NBA. The fact that I read this post just now is laughable.

"2 years ago I wouldn't trade Devin Vassell for Zach LaVine"

My fukking goodness
 
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Vassell has always been less efficient. 2 years ago, LaVine played 77 games putting up 25PPG, 4.5REB, 4.2AST on 48.5/37.5/85 splits

In terms of scoring, I think NBA fans are ignorant to LaVine's abilities. He's one of the most efficient and better shooters in the NBA. The fact that I read this post just now is laughable.

"2 years ago I wouldn't trade Devin Vassell for Zach LaVine"

My fukking goodness

I know right. Zach Lavine is so good the bulls spent two years trying to give him away and not one nba team wanted him.

You tossed his numbers out like they should mean something. He makes 43 million dollars. That's a top 20 highest paid contract in the entire league. I hope paying somebody the 18th highest salary this year in the entire league can get you 25 points on efficient shooting. You know who else is averaging 25? Victor. If I TRIPLED the amount of money Victor makes this year... he still wouldn't make as much as Zach Lavine.

2 years ago if the Spurs had offered the Bulls Devin for Zach you would have been on your knees ready to turn your throat into a nursery to get that deal done.
 

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If the Hawks flame out and get bounced in the play in or first round, then Trae Young still might finally demand a trade :lupe:
 

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I know right. Zach Lavine is so good the bulls spent two years trying to give him away and not one nba team wanted him.

You tossed his numbers out like they should mean something. He makes 43 million dollars. That's a top 20 highest paid contract in the entire league. I hope paying somebody the 18th highest salary this year in the entire league can get you 25 points on efficient shooting. You know who else is averaging 25? Victor. If I TRIPLED the amount of money Victor makes this year... he still wouldn't make as much as Zach Lavine.

2 years ago if the Spurs had offered the Bulls Devin for Zach you would have been on your knees ready to turn your throat into a nursery to get that deal done.
Yeah, and fast forward to now. All the teams that didn't trade for him when the Bulls were "trying to give him away" look like damn fools.

Carry on and wait for Devin Vassell to turn into Zach LaVine one day.

fukk outta here
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