55 immigrants arrested at the border by new surveillance program

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As Wired reports, Anduril calls its bespoke border wall surveillance system "Lattice" and intends for it to undercut the price of traditional border wall proposals by a substantial margin, employing high tech, low cost off-the-shelf devices and sensors where a traditional proposal would pour vertical concrete. These sensors are networked together and feed into an AI system that sifts through the data to detect a human presence, highlight it in a green box, and send push alerts designed to notify Customs and Border Protection agents in real time.

Anduril is testing the system, in operation since March 2018, on private land in coordination with Texas Rep. Will Hurd and a cattle rancher on the Texas border. At a second site, Anduril is running a pilot program in coordination with DHS and a local border patrol office.

Wired reports that the preliminary system has proven effective: Lattice led to the apprehension of 55 individuals crossing the Texas border and 10 "interceptions" at the San Diego site within the project's initial 12 days in operation.
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Palmer Luckey’s defense company Anduril is already leading to arrests at the southern border

So will Trump still go with the Wall or for Skynet?

As much as I'd like immigration to be fixed, I don't think I like where this tech is going. National surveillance is going places that we as a country claim we don't want it to go.
 
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See, this is yet another one of those instances where simply calling them 'immigrants' rather than the more accurate 'illegal immigrants' is misleading.

I expected to hear about unfair targeting of legal immigrants, but this seems to be a system deployed at the border to catch people in the act of crossing the border illegally.

Literally sounds no different than having more border guards deployed, but instead using scalable tech. I can't see anything wrong about a country using cameras to surveil its own border.

It also isn't hypocritical to not care about the data being collected on illegal border crossers, but care about data collected on citizens. You have basically no rights at any border worldwide, especially one that isn't your home country.

You try to cross into Canada and they demand to search your phone before you can enter? You're free to decline, but you have to go back to your own country, then.

You're not owed entry to any country worldwide that you aren't a legal resident/citizen of. Every nation can set their own arbitrary requirements for entry onto their land.

That's not even a 'conservative' or 'republican' view, either. It's the way it works in even the most liberal of countries. It's just sovereignty.

Getting outraged at a country using sensors to detect unauthorized crossings on its own border is like a thief being mad at you for having cameras in your house to catch them in the act :dahell:
 
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im pretty fukking tired of the left's pathetic position on illegal immigration. and you know what the worst part about it is? they don't even have the balls to come out and say what it is :camby:

i would make a thread asking posters in here to explain what it is, if i wasnt 100% sure i'd get bushed
 
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You're not owed entry to any country worldwide that you aren't a legal resident/citizen of. Every nation can set their own arbitrary requirements for entry onto their land.

That's not even a 'conservative' or 'republican' view, either. It's the way it works in even the most liberal of countries. It's just sovereignty.

Getting outraged at a country using sensors to detect unauthorized crossings on its own border is like a thief being mad at you for having cameras in your house to catch them in the act :dahell:
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the cac mamba said:
im pretty fukking tired of the left's pathetic position on illegal immigration. and you know what the worst part about it is? they don't even have the balls to come out and say what it is :camby:

i would make a thread asking posters in here to explain what it is, if i wasnt 100% sure i'd get bushed
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Is this directed at me?
 
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For Da Bag said:
Ok. But since it's probably best I clarifying my stance, I'll do so. Assuming this works very well on the border, everyone here does realize that it will be used on actual US citizens in America next. Right?
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What you're saying is in essence no different from saying the military shouldn't have such advanced weapons and tactics because it may be turned against citizens.
 
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both have been used against the American public... I don't see the reach
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Yes they have. I'm saying they're separate issues, though. The 'reach' part is saying because the gov't can abuse certain privileged defence tech they have, they shouldn't be allowed to use any defence tech.

It's a fallacy to say that security technology shouldn't be used to enforce the border because it may be turned against citizens. They're two separate issues. There should be oversight, and if it's being abused, then of course that should be dealt with.

No rational people actually believe the military shouldn't have advanced weapons because they can easily be used against the public, though. We recognize that it can (and has) been abused domestically, but limiting defence capabilities to only the level an average citizen can put up a fight against isn't a realistic option if you want to be able to defend your country.
 
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