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The amount of money to house, feed, and care for a horse would not be practical in today's society. On top of that, you have to leave for work an extra hour early, and you'll be freezing, because horses don't have heat, and you have to carry around water, and carrots, and sugar cubes. And you'd have to tie the horse up at work, and it's illegal, and cruel to chain animals. Plus, you know the horse would be making horse noises and shyt while you're inside, and that would be distracting.
Can potentially make robots that solve all the problems you listed with horses:lolbron:
 

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I don't feel like we are technologically at a point right now that would have us in an automation boom by 2030.

Oh, no, we're easily there already.

All driving jobs, most cash register jobs, most factory jobs, most data crunching jobs (like tax prep, payroll, data entry or a lot of engineering work), even a great deal of coding. Stacking shelves, loading trucks, even stuff you wouldn't think of like a lot of the boring work that legal assistants and medical assistants do - it all could be automated today without any meaningful technological advance.

It's not even about full automation, all you need to wipe out most jobs is to have the technology that allows 1 person to do the work of 3 people.
 

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Any advancement towards the elimination of scarcity should be welcomed... these doomsday threads are :scusthov:

There IS no scarcity of anything meaningful. There's only wealthy people creating gigantic hoards of the meaningful resources, then trying to manipulate the economy in any way possible (including automation) which will allow them to hoard even more. The problem is the distribution of resources, not the total amount of resources, and automation doesn't positively affect distribution at all.

I have not heard of a single robot ready for mass production that will stop rich people from hoarding stuff.
 

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There IS no scarcity of anything meaningful. There's only wealthy people creating gigantic hoards of the meaningful resources, then trying to manipulate the economy in any way possible (including automation) which will allow them to hoard even more. The problem is the distribution of resources, not the total amount of resources, and automation doesn't positively affect distribution at all.

I have not heard of a single robot ready for mass production that will stop rich people from hoarding stuff.
Except that there is, we arent talking about subsistence living like fukking animals breh, to live the life ur living right now means billions are living worse. We can easily feed the world but to do other things is an impossibility for everyone.
 

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Except that there is, we arent talking about subsistence living like fukking animals breh, to live the life ur living right now means billions are living worse. We can easily feed the world but to do other things is an impossibility for everyone.

Exactly. Even in America, the population has exploded in the last 50 years by going from 120 million to 340 million. Traffic jams are getting worse, progressive areas have cost of living skyrocketing, and more and more jobs are disappearing forever thanks to automation. About time humanity enforced basic income by limiting people to 2 kids per household. 3 or more kids, you gotta get a job.

Infinite growth is simply not possible.
 

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Robots greet customers at world's first personless bank

First fully automated bank.

A bank has opened a branch run entirely by robots, who greet customers and manage accounts, in a world first.

The Shanghai branch of the China Construction Bank (CCB) is run purely by technology - with virtual reality, artificial intelligence and facial recognition all playing a part.

CCB, which is China's second biggest bank, already has 360 branches across the city, with smart machines appealing to its tech-savvy customers and slashing of staff costs making it a winner for bank bosses.

According to the South China Morning Post walking through the front door at the Jiujiang Road branch, users are met by a friendly looking humanoid that answers questions using voice recognition.


Note that this could be implemented TOMORROW if they wanted.
 

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Except that there is, we arent talking about subsistence living like fukking animals breh, to live the life ur living right now means billions are living worse. We can easily feed the world but to do other things is an impossibility for everyone.

I'm not talking about "subsistence living"

The vast, vast majority of our excess does nothing for human well-being. Americans have WAY more stuff than they did 50 years ago yet they report less happiness and satisfaction with their lives, not more. Most of the excessive consumption is the result of advertising, capitalistic culture, competition, destruction due to violence/war, and pure waste.

The issue of feeding everyone on Earth is NOT an issue of us doing amazing things. We could feed everyone on Earth for 10% of our defense budget...do you REALLY think that defense budget is making our lives better? The amazing things we do are done with a fraction of our resources, most of our resources are spent in wasteful, stupid shyt.

There's enough resources on Earth that even if our population grows to 10 billion people, every single person on this Earth could have far more than enough to eat and make it as good as they want, could have a house big enough to be happy in, could have more entertainment and more challenges in their life than they would ever need to remain satisfied.

The only problem is that not every can live in a ultra-capitalistic culture where 70% of what is manufactured is thrown away the same year, where stuff is designed to break down by the next holiday season, where all the fashions and trends constantly change so there is constantly new stuff to buy, and where we're taught to waste stuff just to waste it, because profits don't come from making anything last.
 

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If 2030 is the timetable then I think self driving cars will be the big job killer.

All my CDL brehs better get their certs up.

It'll all be worth it just to avoid conversation with the uber driver :blessed:

CDL drivers better become diesel mechanics.. those Tesla semi trucks are still years off..
 

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Robots greet customers at world's first personless bank

First fully automated bank.




Note that this could be implemented TOMORROW if they wanted.
Shanghai is a heavily automated city, it is the city to watch for automation trends in predictable consumer areas such as this. There are still human automation assistants and guards in the bank but how they're using machine learning and tuning their facial recognition is incredibly interesting. Facial recognition of such a potential large base and the data analytics running along side it require a great deal of "learning" to be fully seamless, wonder how open to talking about their back end systems they would be.
 
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