2024 UPDATE!! Altman: prepare for AI to be "uncomfortable" 33% US jobs gone..SKYNET, AI medical advances? BASIC INCOME? 1st AI MOVIE! AI MAYOR!!

[DEAD7]

Any advancement towards the elimination of scarcity should be welcomed... these doomsday threads are

 

[newworldafro]

I'm creating some automation right now that's going to cost a temp their job.

Sounds right up your alley.

 

[acri1]

white ppl don't even respect medicaid, but yeah they'll vote for basic income

Like I said in another thread a while ago, basic income will probably have to happen sooner or later, but as long as minorities get it too white people will have to be dragged kicking and screaming.

Demographic change will probably just mean they eventually get outvoted.

 

[Pressure]

Sounds right up your alley.

:DameMJLol:
Can't get to UBI without automation
:TrumpedYa:

 

[Pressure]

Like I said in another thread a while ago, basic income will probably have to happen sooner or later, but as long as minorities get it too white people will have to be dragged kicking and screaming.

Demographic change will probably just mean they eventually get outvoted.

They'll create rules that target blacks somehow.

 

[BillBanneker]

good luck with that

@ trying to convince them about this when they don't even believe in universal health coverage

Yeah, folks and the business community are defiant about Universal (state run) affordable healthcare and food stamps, basic income will bring the torches out. I think by the time that hits, it'll be so insignificant anyway.


I think a lot of this "automation is upon us!" is just tech propaganda to just make folks complacent concerning their (the industry's) aggressive nature towards this .

 

[kevm3]

lol@Universal Basic Income, aka welfare on steroids

These companies don't even want to pay their workers a fair wage, and yet they expect the government to pay everybody a livable wage. Where is this money going to come from if everyone's out of a job? Oh yea, it will have to come from taxing these same corporations that can't wait to move jobs overseas to avoid taxes and to exploit cheap labor. No thanks to more government dope.

 

[Wild self]

lol@Universal Basic Income, aka welfare on steroids

These companies don't even want to pay their workers a fair wage, and yet they expect the government to pay everybody a livable wage. Where is this money going to come from if everyone's out of a job? Oh yea, it will have to come from taxing these same corporations that can't wait to move jobs overseas to avoid taxes and to exploit cheap labor. No thanks to more government dope.

But even if you employed, could you deal with almost 40% unemployment rate and those people hunting you down for a check?

 

[rapbeats]

this is ridiculous. first of all no technology cannot replace every job. we are hundreds if not thousands of years away from that.

second, if technology ever gets to the point where every job is considered useless... then it has likely also evolved to the point where everyone would have access to basic resources. if technology made food, shelter and water infinite and in abundance for all... no one would have to work out of necessity in the first place.

but in 2018 if your job can be done by a robot, your job probably isn't that important in the first place and you should be looking for other ways to better yourself economically.

No one said ALL. I said dont think YOur job is safe cause it aint. All jobs are up for grabs, a lot of them right NOW and others in the near future. thats all facts. google it not an opinion. one reason that we dont have as much automation as we are capable of having is due to govt saying Hold up...we can't take that many jobs all at once. lets do it slowly.

and dont call a job unimportant just because their is some robot or AI that could pull it off. this is where I realize most of you dont keep up with tech like that. and you think your current job is more special than others. which is why you would make such a statement.

or let me give you this article. thats even coming for sports reporters.

These 5 jobs already are being taken by robots

For years now, some researchers have been anticipating that robots would take away jobs from humans. In the UK, Deloitte and the University of Oxford predicted that 10 million unskilled jobs could be taken over by robots. University of Oxford researchers Carl Benedikt Frey and Michael Osborne estimated in 2013 that 47 percent of total U.S. jobs could be automated and taken over by computers by 2033.

Some experts say not to worry because technology has always created new jobs while eliminating old ones ones, displacing but not replacing workers. But lately, as technology has become more sophisticated, the drumbeat of worry has intensified. “What’s different now?” asked Leigh Watson Healy, chief analyst at market research firm Outsell. “The pace of technology advancements plus the big data phenomenon lead to a whole new level of machines to perform higher level cognitive tasks.” Translated: the old formula of creating more demanding jobs that need advanced training may no longer hold true. The number of people needed to oversee the machines, and to create them, is limited. Where do the many whose occupations have become obsolete go?

“I don’t think we have a good handle on this,” said MIT researcher Matt Beane. “The end game scenarios seem kind of severe. From here on in, it’s really, really, really going to change and it’s going to change faster than we can handle.”

Associated Press has run an experiment of automatically creating corporate earnings reports since June 2014 with software from Automated Insights and data from Zacks Investment Research. After working through problems at the outset, the process is virtually error-free, which likely beats what humans would do.

AP’s sports department is using automation to generate reports for events with small audiences. The organization says it frees up staff to do more important things, helping stretch media budgets. “The company claims it can weave that data into a compelling narrative that on a skill level an experienced writer can do,” said Martin Ford, a software entrepreneur and author of Rise of the Robots: Technology and the Threat of a Jobless Future. Given the sometimes questionable level of writing demonstrated by college graduates and “the hurdle machines have to cross to out-perform humans with college degrees isn’t that high.” But at one time junior reporters would have done the duller work and learned basics of their craft. In less than a year, the potential pool has become smaller.

Online Marketers(can be paid well for these jobs today.)

Does it take a human to understand how to craft a message that will motivate someone to make a purchase or even open an email? Apparently not. In an automated tour de brute force, natural language software firm Persado analyzes data with semantic algorithms to determine what email subject lines, for example, will get the best response.

Working for clients like Citi and Neiman Marcus, the company’s systems can reach into its database of scored language, analyze all the variations of a particular message, and systematically create wording that will have the necessary emotional pull, with the ability to test thousands of permutations to find the best performing versions. Machine-generated email subject lines can sometimes double the number of messages opened compared to human-written ones.

There’s also the rapidly-developing field of programmatic ad buying. Instead of having people choose where to place ads in magazines, software focuses online, using billions of pieces of information about potential subjects and targeting ads on the best prospects in real time.

Anesthesiologists, Surgeons, and Diagnosticians

You might think that doctors represented the ultimate in hands-on expertise that had to be local, but that isn’t the case. Johnson & Johnson’s Sedasys system, already FDA approved, can automate delivery of low-level anesthesia in applications like colonoscopies at the fraction of the cost of a dedicated anesthesiologist. A doctor can supervise multiple machines at the same time to keep the human element.

IBM’s Watson, well known for its stellar performance in the TV game show Jeopardy!, has already demonstrated a far more accurate diagnosis rate for lung cancers than humans — 90 percent versus 50 percent in some tests. The reason is data. Keeping pace with the release of medical data could take doctors 160 hours a week, so doctors can’t possibly review the amount of new insights or even bodies of clinical evidence that can give an edge in making a diagnosis.

Surgeons already use automated systems to aid in low-invasive procedures. Right now, the doctor is in charge, but eventually machines might do simpler procedures themselves. According to Beane, there have already been demonstrations — on Silly Putty — of how a robotic system could potentially remove tumors from tissue. There is also at least one hair transplant robot on the market, allowing one surgeon to oversee multiple procedures at the same time.

“A lot of things we do manually we have automated through robotics,” said Dr. Propa Ghosh, medical director of robotics surgical services at Hunterdon Medical Center. “Instead of using sutures, now we’re using robotic staplers.” She finds it hard to see how machines could do fully automated surgeries because of anatomical variations and the current difficulty computers have in generalizing patterns. However, Ghosh added, “I never could have predicted have the things that have come to play ten years ago, so it’s hard to say where the future will be.”

I think you need to do a bit more research before you make that statement. Automation is here for a lot of jobs and its coming for yours in the near future. and no, that does not mean you will automatically have a new job available to take due to the change in industries.

when something is automated, it means humans no longer have to do those task. it means there may be one job or two jobs for people overseeing these automated tasks and perhaps they are there to fix something if it doesnt work properly. but you will not be able to transition MOST of the people who will lose their jobs due to automation. its not about retraining or smarts. You only need a handful of people overseeing the computers/robots.

 

[rapbeats]

lol@Universal Basic Income, aka welfare on steroids

These companies don't even want to pay their workers a fair wage, and yet they expect the government to pay everybody a livable wage. Where is this money going to come from if everyone's out of a job? Oh yea, it will have to come from taxing these same corporations that can't wait to move jobs overseas to avoid taxes and to exploit cheap labor. No thanks to more government dope.

all of what you are saying is true. but look at it this way.
lets say you're a big clothing line/or even an apparel store. thats all around the US. If no one is working anymore and earning $$$. How can they afford to buy your clothes? They can't. Which means you will go out of business just as fast as you lay everyone off due to automation.

There arent enough rich people to buy all of the STUFF there is to buy to keep these companies bringing in the profits. amazon can have a zillion drones ready to fly and deliver packages but if no one has money to buy anything off of amazon, they will eventually go belly up.

 

[duckbutta]

I'm afraid of self driving vehicles. What if they malfunction, and crash, and kill people? How do they work during rush hour, and change lanes?

You mean like...people do?

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

You mean like...people do?

I'll take my chances any day with human drivers, than cars falling from the sky, because some idiot was too lazy to get gas after work, and decided to risk the flight to the gas station in the morning.

On top of that, flying cars mean flying cop cars. Taxes will be through the roof training, and paying for flying cops.

 

[Futuristic Eskimo]

I'll take my chances any day with human drivers, than cars falling from the sky, because some idiot was too lazy to get gas after work, and decided to risk the flight to the gas station in the morning.

On top of that, flying cars mean flying cop cars. Taxes will be through the roof training, and paying for flying cops.

We should go back to riding horses around. Would eliminate all the problems associated with cars, flying or driving.

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

We should go back to riding horses around. Would eliminate all the problems associated with cars, flying or driving.

The amount of money to house, feed, and care for a horse would not be practical in today's society. On top of that, you have to leave for work an extra hour early, and you'll be freezing, because horses don't have heat, and you have to carry around water, and carrots, and sugar cubes. And you'd have to tie the horse up at work, and it's illegal, and cruel to chain animals. Plus, you know the horse would be making horse noises and shyt while you're inside, and that would be distracting.

 

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