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What is hope if you lose the election?

Ima be frank. What’s going on in Palestine isn’t worth punishing the Democrat nominee
It can be both ways though, she can aknowledge the movement without risking a live bomb if she doesn't want to put a speaker on stage. My posting in this thread on this topic speaks for itself, I dont think its a good idea for her make it a platform cornerstone or anything like that, but how many zionist never-Trumpers do you really think they are? If youre a zionist, youre for Trump bc he literally wants to erase Gaza. If youre just a NORMAL jewish person, then maybe you want Gaza erased or maybe you think senseless bloodsheed on both sides is too much. She doesn't need to go out on stage draped with their flag, she doesn't even have to let someone speak if she's worried about the concerns of them going off, but she's potentially leaving votes on the table if she doesn't address it at all beyond calling for a ceasefire

Hope is more than just some words you put on a tshirt to win elections and its definitely possible for her to pander to the left without dropping crucial support on the right
 
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Because it has no bearing on this discussion!

You see what you just did? Now, you're playing "this source is better than your source" for no reason other than it upholds the narrative that you are already painting in here.

I don't think anyone can look at the proposed speech and say "yeah, this isn't going to work." The content of the speech is fine but there's two things you are being very disingenuous about.

The first is that after what we've seen from these protests with all of the "Killer Kamala" stuff it absolutely plays a factor when deciding if the presenter will stay on script. For you to say "it shouldn't play a factor" is very disingenuous.

The second is that the election is 2 months away and it's a razor thin margin. The party has had to play everything PERFECT to even get to this point that they are at where they could possibly win it and taking a risk that damages the convention is quite the gamble at this stage. The media is looking for ANYTHING they can to put on Kamala and Walz.... they are desperately trying to get Trump back in office and we know this because there's pages and pages of evidence throughout this thread.

For you to sit here and say "what's the big deal?" when it absolutely is a risk is very disingenuous. Why does the speech have to be given publicly, Kamala and her team has been meeting with Palestinians in Chicago behind closed doors, I'm wondering why that does not suffice.
 

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The genocide in Gaza is terrible but don't use ADOS history to make your point.
Euros of unknown ethnicity on a black board lecturing black folks with our own history after previously lecturing us on how Trump would liberate black people across the globe

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It can be both ways though, she can aknowledge the movement without risking a live bomb if she doesn't want to put a speaker on stage. My posting in this thread on this topic speaks for itself, I dont think its a good idea for her make it a platform cornerstone or anything like that, but how many zionist never-Trumpers do you really think they are? If youre a zionist, youre for Trump bc he literally wants to erase Gaza. If youre just a NORMAL jewish person, then maybe you want Gaza erased or maybe you think senseless bloodsheed on both sides is too much. She doesn't need to go out on stage draped with their flag, she doesn't even have to let someone speak if she's worried about the concerns of them going off, but she's potentially leaving votes on the table if she doesn't address it at all beyond calling for a ceasefire

Hope is more than just some words you put on a tshirt to win elections and its definitely possible for her to pander to the left without dropping crucial support on the right
What if at the end of her speech she said something like from the river to sea, Palestine should be free, Israel is a colonial, apartheid quasi Nazi state and shouldn’t exist then walked off? How many Jews/Never Trumpers would that turn off?
 
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Also, nobody is minimizing the situation but it is the truth that most Americans have other concerns.

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so why don't you go address the government in kazakhstan, or wherever the fukk you live, and stop dikkriding our elections?
Lose an argument and whip out the age-old xenophobia. Your grand-pappy's recipe. First Slovenia, then China, now Kazakhstan. The ramblings of embarrassed paranoiacs. Funny stuff.

Ignoring for a moment the fact that you were absolutely rocked out of your gourd on whippets during elementary school geography and failed to discern a riddle that a 5th grader could solve, you do understand America exists in a global community and there's a thing called "foreign policy" that is part of the American political system, right? The idea that the people having American-made bombs wipe out their whole family with the approval of the American government should just silently accept the results of American imperialism is as vapid as it is common in this country. You're drunk off the right-wing, white supremacist approach to foreign policy that stipulates (white) America is free to do whatever it wants to whoever it wants with total impunity, and the true crime is the very act of the subjugated speaking up against your system. Complete lack of responsibility for the harm your actions cause to others. No wonder you find fellow cause with Zionists.

What right does an Iraqi have to want to see Bush out of office? What right does a Vietnamese person have to want to see McGovern elected?
 

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Lose an argument and whip out the age-old xenophobia. Your grand-pappy's recipe. First Slovenia, then China, now Kazakhstan. The ramblings of embarrassed paranoiacs. Funny stuff.

Ignoring for a moment the fact that you were absolutely rocked out of your gourd on whippets during elementary school geography and failed to discern a riddle that a 5th grader could solve, you do understand America exists in a global community and there's a thing called "foreign policy" that is part of the American political system, right? The idea that the people having American-made bombs wipe out their whole family with the approval of the American government should just silently accept the results of American imperialism is as vapid as it is common in this country. You're drunk off the right-wing, white supremacist approach to foreign policy that stipulates (white) America is free to do whatever it wants to whoever it wants with total impunity, and the true crime is the very act of the subjugated speaking up against your system. Complete lack of responsibility for the harm your actions cause to others. No wonder you find fellow cause with Zionists.

What right does an Iraqi have to want to see Bush out of office? What right does a Vietnamese person have to want to see McGovern elected?
non-american registered voter babble :russell:
 

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Lose an argument and whip out the age-old xenophobia. Your grand-pappy's recipe. First Slovenia, then China, now Kazakhstan. The ramblings of embarrassed paranoiacs. Funny stuff.

Ignoring for a moment the fact that you were absolutely rocked out of your gourd on whippets during elementary school geography and failed to discern a riddle that a 5th grader could solve, you do understand America exists in a global community and there's a thing called "foreign policy" that is part of the American political system, right? The idea that the people having American-made bombs wipe out their whole family with the approval of the American government should just silently accept the results of American imperialism is as vapid as it is common in this country. You're drunk off the right-wing, white supremacist approach to foreign policy that stipulates (white) America is free to do whatever it wants to whoever it wants with total impunity, and the true crime is the very act of the subjugated speaking up against your system. Complete lack of responsibility for the harm your actions cause to others. No wonder you find fellow cause with Zionists.

What right does an Iraqi have to want to see Bush out of office? What right does a Vietnamese person have to want to see McGovern elected?
I may disagree with you on some things but your sense of humor has me rolling
 
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