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So the answer is to kill triple the innocent women and children in Gaza? Fighting fire with fire?

Nope... I don't fukk with the Israeli government at all. They were praying for times like these. But as we sit here on U.S. soil, beyond a ceasefire and sending humanitarian aid.. there's not much else that's going to be done when our allies are in a war.
 

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We should still be negotiating a ceasefire and sending humanitarian aid. That's what we can do. Beyond that, I'm not sure what people are expecting.

The Middle East is a complete disaster and there's really nothing we can do to fix it :snoop:
How about not giving Israel a blank check, unlimited international diplomatic cover to avoid culpability, and the advanced weaponry being used to commit these war crimes? You give a junkie a black card and say there's nothing you can do to stop them from using.
 

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So they should only make their voices heard and try to pressure her to take good positions when Kamala is facing no threat and they have no leverage because she's already got what she wants from them? Sign the contract then ask for a raise.

Your threat (the bolded) only has teeth if you're ready to have Trump as President.

Unless you're 100% ready to go there and not vote, cool yourself out, eat a Snickers and worry about all of that later.
 
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I know none of these BlueMAGA goons give a fukk about Palestinian lives, but for God sakes she did that shyt in Michigan, the same state where over 140,000 people voted in protest of Biden's handling of Gaza.

That was a dumb thing to say not only morally, but politically too. :snoop:

You didn't even watch the entire clip or realize that Kamala met with them TODAY....
 

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How about not giving Israel a blank check, unlimited international diplomatic cover to avoid culpability, and the advanced weaponry being used to commit these war crimes? You give a junkie a black card and say there's nothing you can do to stop them from using.

The US and the developed world aren't going to allow Iran to erase Israel, Ivan.
 

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Your threat (the bolded) only has teeth if you're ready to have Trump as President.

Unless you're 100% ready to go there and not vote, cool yourself out, eat a Snickers and worry about all of that later.
They're clearly saying they're not going to vote for her if she supports the genocide. That's literally what they were chanting. If Kamala wants to call their bluff, that's her choice.
 

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Your threat (the bolded) only has teeth if you're ready to have Trump as President.

Unless you're 100% ready to go there and not vote
, cool yourself out, eat a Snickers and worry about all of that later.
Who is gonna shock him with some mind blowing facts on this one :mjgrin:

He won’t mind Trump being president. He is on record saying he believes Trump will liberate black people world wide.

Also he can’t vote.
 

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I think they know that which is why they're trying to appeal to her and not trump.

Yeah, not sure if you've seen what happening over there but the AIPAC model ain't going to work for a people that are being systematically eradicated.

I think the argument would be once she's elected it's too late. Unless you get her on the record for something ahead of time there's zero reason to believe she's going to do something after the fact.

Disagree. Money and political influence is the only thing that matters.

People have been crying over the Israeli-Palestianian conflict since my grandmother was in school.

Obviously, that's not working, now is it?
 

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They're clearly saying they're not going to vote for her if she supports the genocide. That's literally what they were chanting. If Kamala wants to call their bluff, that's her choice.

How is your letter writing campaign to the IRGC going? Any progress on stopping weapons proliferation in the region?

@AquaCityBoy @Loose @Robbie3000 and etc are welcome to answer as well
 

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The US and the developed world aren't going to allow Iran to erase Israel, Ivan.
Yes, we know the US has chosen to support Israel's campaign of genocidal war crimes in Palestine against the consensus of the international community. That's the context within which this entire discussion is taking place. Please catch up and pay attention if you want to contribute.
 
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He's been historically bad on this issue, almost like he has zero control over the situation. Absolutely weak foreign policy. Obama would have put his foot up bibi ass, they hated eachother

Completely different circumstances. If Israel was attacked, hundreds lives lost and hundreds more kidnapped... and it happened under Obama, it would be the SAME response.... attempt a ceasefire and send humanitarian aid and that's it. There would not be more to it than that.

If the same thing happened with a Republican President in power? You know the answer and it's nothing more than "fukk Gaza" at that point..
 

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Let’s not blow this heckler situation out of proportion. It was a great rally.

There will be time to get at a President Kamala if she doesn’t course correct from The Warlord’s disastrous Israel policy.
Rule 1 of US Election thread: All Gaza related talk will be blown out of the God damn solar system of Proportions.
 

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Yes, we know the US has chosen to support Israel's campaign of genocidal war crimes in Palestine against the consensus of the international community. That's the context within which this entire discussion is taking place. Please catch up and pay attention if you want to contribute.

Do you string all those words together yourself or is it an app? It has to be an app right? Iran and its proxies aren't going to win. Tough luck.
 

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Yes, we know the US has chosen to support Israel's campaign of genocidal war crimes in Palestine against the consensus of the international community. That's the context within which this entire discussion is taking place. Please catch up and pay attention if you want to contribute.
He's just a blind zionist drone, so it's not within his cognitive ability to intellectually understand the united states often makes mistakes geopolitically, supporting Israel in this war is one of them. A crucial critical mistake supporting bibi a genocidal terrorist
 
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