2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread: Donald Trump wins & will return to the White House

WHO WINS?


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Just as I expected regarding Limousine Liberal with zero midwestern appeal Newsom.

California's 56-year-old governor has repeatedly, adamantly insisted he has no plans whatsoever to challenge the president.

Still, the talk of a 2024 candidacy persists, fueled not just by Newsom's words and deeds — a snarky debate with Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, turns on the national and international stages — but also the chatter of political gossips and frustration of Democrats despairing over Biden's reelection bid.

If you ignored Newsom's protestations and looked for a place he might launch an insurgent campaign, next-door Nevada and its early primary would seem a good place to start.

But Mulcrone wants no part of that scenario.


And he's not alone among fellow Democrats regarding California as more of a curse than a cure for their political anxieties.

"The last time I was in San Francisco was about five years ago," Mulcrone, 52, said as he led his three pet beagles on a walk in Green Valley, a well-to-do Las Vegas suburb.

Mulcrone, who works in sales, recalled stepping from his car and immediately being hit with a pungent whiff of urine rising from the street. He blamed Newsom, a former San Francisco mayor, for the city's decay.


"I think his policies were too liberal and that kind of laid the foundation for why S.F. is the mess it is now," Mulcrone said. "I don't care if I ever set foot there again."

Michele Hoffman shared his political sentiments.

She voted for Biden in 2020 and appreciates him "keeping the country on an even keel." But Hoffman would have preferred Biden not seek reelection — again, because of the incumbent's advanced age.

At this point, however, she sees no viable alternative to the president — and can't imagine Newsom replacing Biden atop the Democratic ticket.

"He's got that California stigma," said Hoffman, 66, who retired to Henderson after working 30 years at a university in Kansas. "I'm from Missouri, from a very conservative area, and I don't think he would get the support from the rest of the country that he would need to beat Joe Biden."
(I wonder if she meant to say Trump instead of Biden?)

In nearly three dozen interviews with voters in and around Las Vegas, the election epicenter where most Nevada voters live, not one of them mentioned California's governor as a substitute for Biden.

Most, however, were like Courtney Pruitt.

The 35-year-old Democrat voted for Biden in 2020 — "Trump made it easy" — but would prefer a nominee in 2024 who is younger and more vibrant. "He just doesn't seem like he's doing anything," she said of the president.

Newsom is nowhere on her list of possibilities.


Pruitt often visits Los Angeles for business — she sells vintage antiques in Las Vegas — and the state's extended pandemic lockdown soured her on California's governor.

"He really screwed over a lot of people," said Pruitt, who is leaning toward Robert F. Kennedy Jr., an anti-vaccine activist mounting an independent — and decidedly long-shot — bid for the White House.


Democrat Cindy Manchee thought Michigan's governor, Gretchen Whitmer, would make a fine replacement for Biden: "She's middle of the road, she understands there needs to be give and take." But, alas, Manchee lamented, it's too late for that to happen.

The 65-year-old retiree moved to Henderson about 10 years ago from the San Francisco Bay Area. Manchee misses California; on a chilly afternoon she wore a blue fleece with "Monterey" stitched on the front.

But she doesn't miss the taxes and high cost of California living, and considers Newsom too liberal to win the White House. Besides, Manchee said, "I don't think he's done that great a job" as governor.

There were a few fans of the governor.

One of them was Brian V., 41, who manages a chain retailer at an upscale Henderson shopping mall. (He declined to give his last name, to avoid hassle for sharing his political views.)

"I love Gavin Newsom," Brian said during a vape-and-coffee break. "He's young. He's intelligent. He's done a lot of great things for California."

But that doesn't mean he wants him to step in for Biden on the Democratic ticket.

"We're already a little too late into that game," Brian said. "We need to rally behind Joe Biden, get him reelected, so that we can stave off another four years of potentially going into a fascist state."

"Kamala Harris, Pete Buttigieg, Gavin Newsom," Brian said, ticking off the Democrats he might consider for president.

 

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Seems like the last few election cycles, the "dump the VP" talk happens.

Democratic black women and gay black men will try to burn the party to the ground if Harris is replaced. They'll accuse Biden of being a racist and it's a sure way to guarantee Trump wins the election.
Yeah I don't think Joe can dump Kamala. He picked her, and I think he's gotta ride that out. Also for what it's with I've heard he's a pretty loyal "inner circle" dude, and I don't think he'd ever drop her.
 

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The blame isn’t on those groups. The blame is squarely with this administration and its performance.

There have been endless warnings along the way.

Blaming the voters for your inability to seal the deal is the weakest form of politics.
 

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The blame isn’t on those groups. The blame is squarely with this administration and its performance.

There have been endless warnings along the way.

Blaming the voters for your inability to seal the deal is the weakest form of politics.
Yeah it is

The blame is on these stupid dumb ass black people who listen to fukkin idiots like Shaun King

fukkin idiots

Dumb ass fukkin Spanish retarded fools who wanna be white and "don't know where they fit it"

fukkin Fools
 

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The blame isn’t on those groups. The blame is squarely with this administration and its performance.

There have been endless warnings along the way.

Blaming the voters for your inability to seal the deal is the weakest form of politics.
Don't vote. I don't care. Just don't cry about some shyt half a world away then subject yourself to it at home. :mjlol:
 
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