14 yr old anti-taliban activist shot in Swat (pakistan) (will probably survive)
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as opposed to what though? most of the militants there are indigenous tribal types right? its not like you can just go and kill them all
The problem with negotiations is that they've done several rounds and they have failed and TTP has reneged on ceasefires. Swat is a case in point where they even start expanding their territory. Also, at this point, negotiations would be starting from the point of weakness for the Pak gov and TTP really has no incentive unless you want to hand over FATA to them and give them a blank cheque.
I admit you can't just can't go in and kill them all, but you have to exert pressure on them from a military standpoint and increase the writ of the state in the tribal areas to get them to seriously negotiate and bring them into the mainstream in the long term. Balancing all these out is difficult.
Of course the major impediment is that the Pak army has to abandon its jihad narrative and notions of strategic depth in Afghanistan, but that's not happening.
So all this will get worse, a lot worse, before it gets any better.
How would they go about this? It seems like an unimaginable task.
It almost seems so
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Pakistani girl, 14, shot by Taliban over activism
Malala Yousufzai, a Pakistani girl who rose to prominence after speaking out against Taliban militants who closed down her school in 2009, remains in a serious condition on Wednesday after Taliban gunmen fired on her school bus in the Swat valley.
Taliban gunmen in Pakistan shot and seriously wounded on Tuesday a 14-year-old schoolgirl widely admired for speaking out against religious extremists and in favour of women’s rights.
Malala Yousufzai was flown by helicopter to a military hospital in the frontier city of Peshawar, medical officials confirmed. Yousufzai remains in a serious condition, but doctors reportedly succeeded in removing the bullet that had lodged near her spine early Wednesday, Rezaul Hasan from the Press Trust of India told FRANCE24.
“She is in the intensive care unit and semi-conscious, although not on the ventilator,” a doctor requesting anonymity told the AFP news agency.
The young activist was shot in the head and neck when gunmen fired on her school bus in the Swat valley, northwest of the capital, Islamabad. Two other girls were also wounded in the attack.
Yousufzai became famous for speaking out against the Pakistani Taliban at a time when even the government seemed to be appeasing the hardline Islamists. After a lightening offensive in the Swat valley in 2009, the Taliban closed many schools for girls in the region, including Yousufzai’s school.
In a diary she kept for the BBC's Urdu service under a pen name, the then 11-year-old schoolgirl exposed the suffering caused by the militants as they ruled.
‘Barbaric and cowardly’
Tuesday’s shooting sparked outrage across the country, with Prime Minister Raja Pervaiz Ashraf hailing Yousufzai as a daughter of Pakistan.
The United States also denounced a "barbaric" and "cowardly" attack.
Outrage across Pakistan
By FRANCE 24
"We strongly condemn the shooting of Malala. Directing violence at children is barbaric, it's cowardly, and our hearts go out to her and the others who were wounded, as well as their families," State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said.
Taliban spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan confirmed his group was behind the shooting.
“She was pro-West, she was speaking against Taliban and she was calling President Obama her idol,” Ehsan said by telephone from an undisclosed location.
“She was young but she was promoting Western culture in Pashtun areas,” he told Reuters news agency, referring to the main ethnic group in northwest Pakistan. Most members of the Taliban come from conservative Pashtun tribes.
Uncertain future for Swat
Islamabad agreed to a ceasefire with the Taliban in Swat in early 2009, effectively recognising insurgent control of the valley whose lakes and mountains had long been a tourist attraction.
The Taliban set up courts, executed residents and closed girls’ schools.
At that time a documentary team filmed Yousufzai weeping as she explained her ambition to be a doctor.
Pakistani surgeons removed a bullet on Wednesday from 14-year-old Malala Yousufzai, who was shot by the Taliban for speaking out against the militants and promoting education for girls, doctors said.
The army launched an offensive and retook control of Swat later that year, and Yousufzai went on to receive the country’s highest civilian award. She was also nominated for an international children's peace award..
Since then, she has received numerous threats. On Tuesday, gunmen arrived at her school and asked for her by name, witnesses told police. Yousufzai was shot when she came out of class and walked towards a bus.
Tuesday's shooting in broad daylight in Mingora, the main town of the Swat valley, raises serious questions about security more than three years after the army claimed to have crushed the insurgency.
(FRANCE 24 with wires)
http://www.france24.com/en/20121009...9_pakistan_girl_malala_yousufzai_shot_taliban
Video in link highly disturbing
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The problem is that when the Saudis, Americans and Pakistans trained and armed the Afghan jihadists, the jihad was waged in Afghanistan and the refugees and training were based in the Pashtun areas of Pakistan.
So over the course of ten years, a jihadist military complex was created, and this encompasses everything from refugee camps, training facilities, madrassas etc
When the Soviets withdrew, the Pakistanis/Saudis kept the pressure on the Afghan govt, and keep pushing the Islamists to take Kabul, when really the priority should have been reconcialition. The Americans washed their hands off the matter and fuked off.
After Afghanistan went to shiit in the 1990s, these same jihadists were used by the Pakistani state to fight the jihad in Kashmir. The Afghan jihadists either put their guns down or joined the dog fight for Kabul while the intl ones went to Bosnia, Kashmir or went back home to launch attempts at insurection there (Libya)
The govt writ, never too strong, became incredibly weakened. During the Taliban era, the Pakistani state had even more of an incentive to keep those structures intact, this time to support the Taliban regime. The training camps were back in business, and the Pashtuns mobilized by the thousands to fight, again, in Afghanistan
Fast forward to 2001, and now another foreign power is in Afghanistan, and again, these structures are maintained.
At some point, a few of these Pakistani side Pashtuns said hey, why are we distinguishing between the Americans, and the Pakistanis who support the Americans, and so you have the backlash there.
Of course, I refuse to believe the 500,000 strong Pakistani army is incapable of re establishing its writ if it needed to, and besides it is no position of legitimacy to try non violent means. Meanwhile, mobilizing thousands of jihadists for an "Islamic" govt in Afghanistan means eventually a few of them will say, hey why not create one in Pakistan
These guys have no value. They have no jobs, no education, no empowerment. Theyre like gang bangers. The only thing thats given them meaning is fighting, and thats all theyve done is fight. Their societies destroyed by war, their tribal structures in disarray
Then youve got the ones who are making a killing of the war. The Old tribal chiefs are dead or marginalized. You got the youngstas who are strapped and theyre not trying to give away the power theyve accumulated. Youve got business interests (smuggling, drug trafikking) that only thrives if there is a void in authority. Then you also got independent tribal types that are on some fukk anybody who comes through here, tip
Pakistan and America loved these guys when they were fighting the Soviets and Indians, and now they wanna sweep em under the carpet
Good luck