BIGDENNIS10UK
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Listening to combat jacks podcast today and they got into it a bit, but out if respect for biggie dudnt talk about what happened?
So anyone know the whole story?
So anyone know the whole story?
What was the whole deal with the biggie And boot camp click beef?
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DoomzdayzV
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they dissed biggie with a lookalike in a OGC video & got their asses beat for it. I remember EZ Elpee telling the whole story in The Source back in the day, cuz he was there too.
BIGDENNIS10UK
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Who got a beating?
Why the diss biggie?
Something about a stolen hook or some lines or something, sounds like the cube/cypress hill beef.
DoomzdayzV
Banned
yeah....If you listen to the Nocturnal album...Ruck and Rock have a few darts for Biggie in there too. "Drugs, Jewels, and Versace.....nikkas need therapy"
BIGDENNIS10UK
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I'm sure they alluded to sons stolen lines today?
But like I say, they didn't wanna elaborate, actually said they're cool with junior mafia these days.
I never knew there was actual fights though, just thought it was some rapper stuff.
But like I say, they didn't wanna elaborate, actually said they're cool with junior mafia these days.
I never knew there was actual fights though, just thought it was some rapper stuff.
Starang got beat up.
IPunchFaces
Pro
"he caught two or three stitches
he was still gettin bytches in the tunnel takin pictures"
IPunchFaces
Pro
They ran up in D&D studios and jumped Starang...one person...and it was Biggie's goons who did it.
BIGDENNIS10UK
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Just read this after a google search
i'll break it down for y'all...
there were subtle disses towards biggie in the "Sound Bwoy Buriell" video but the thing that really set if off was him getting clowned in the "No Fear" video, so he sent a few of his boys to D&D Studios to lay down the message that biggie was not one to be fukked with especially by other rappers from BK.
they found Starang there alone (this part is kinda hazy tho since it's been said that starang was beaten up outside D&D while others claim it was inside) and proceeded to pistol whip him and let him know that more action would be coming if the disrespect towards biggie continued.
after that, Dru Ha got all shook and mandated that no Duck Down artists or affiliates were to engage in any retaliation. Rock was foaming at the mouth at the chance of getting revenge as was his MFC crew, which is mostly street n*ggas down for whatever, but Dru Ha deaded that with the quickness and that ended up being one of the reasons why Rock stopped fukking with Duck Down cause he hated how Dru Ha bytched out about that and couldn't stand working under a person like that.
well that's how the story goes at least...
i'll break it down for y'all...
there were subtle disses towards biggie in the "Sound Bwoy Buriell" video but the thing that really set if off was him getting clowned in the "No Fear" video, so he sent a few of his boys to D&D Studios to lay down the message that biggie was not one to be fukked with especially by other rappers from BK.
they found Starang there alone (this part is kinda hazy tho since it's been said that starang was beaten up outside D&D while others claim it was inside) and proceeded to pistol whip him and let him know that more action would be coming if the disrespect towards biggie continued.
after that, Dru Ha got all shook and mandated that no Duck Down artists or affiliates were to engage in any retaliation. Rock was foaming at the mouth at the chance of getting revenge as was his MFC crew, which is mostly street n*ggas down for whatever, but Dru Ha deaded that with the quickness and that ended up being one of the reasons why Rock stopped fukking with Duck Down cause he hated how Dru Ha bytched out about that and couldn't stand working under a person like that.
well that's how the story goes at least...
West Coast Avenger
West Coastin & Smokin
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqJa0Uig9Gw"]O.G.C. "No Fear" - YouTube[/ame]
go to 1:13 then to 2:09.....LOL!!
go to 1:13 then to 2:09.....LOL!!
BIGDENNIS10UK
All Star
Here's more
Behind The Beef: Junior Mafia Vs. OGCHip-Hop Culture 17 December 2011
By Odeisel
We sat with General Steele a while ago for an extensive interview after police shut down the release party of the very dope Monumental album by Pete Rock & Smif N Wessun. After we got through with the nitty gritty , I wanted to ask about a beef tat flew under the radar for years outside of BK Hip-Hop and New York. During an ongoing misunderstanding between Duck Down group OGC (Originoo Gunn Clappaz) and Biggies Junior Mafia, Starang Wondah from OGC got run up on in the legendary D&D Studios. Thankfully no one got seriously hurt and eventually the beef was squashed. But for those who didnt know or those who wondered what the hell it was all about, we got that butter. Enjoy.
***LISTEN*** General-Steele-Talks-Junior-Mafia-OGC-Beef.mp3
Planet Ill: There was a little something with Biggie and OGC . Now everyone looks back [at Biggie] like, greatest rapper of all time, and theres universal love. But tell us about some of the animus that was going on back then. What was the source of the problem and how did you move forward from that?
General Steele: This incident with Biggie and Jr. Mafia man, looking back at it now, and even looking at it then, it was due to immaturity. Cats were young and eager and Hip-Hop will mold your mind into something at times. I only say that because OGC, they had did a song where Top Dog starts, I can be as good as the rest of them but as baaad as the worst, so dont test me Thats how he started his rhyme.
So one night, we went to the Palladium and that was the first night that these guys performed that song. Biggie and Jr. Mafia was there. Couple days later, what do we hear on the radio? You can be as good as the rest of them but as baaad as the worst in the chorus that Biggie had did. Immediately cats was like, Oh shyt! Why would he do that? Misinterpretations and dudes was upset. They like wow, he steal from us? Thats family, yadda yadda, and cats wanted to do something about it. He stole their verse.
Now mind you these are the young cats.
Planet Ill: Yeah they the babies so yall gotta
General Steele: Yeah. We taking the heat, but at the same time me and Tek was the ones that was like that shyt aint about nothing. But not you got this industry shyt factored in where its like, Wait a minute, maybe you guys can use this. We actually had producers of videos, video producers offering to say, hey why dont we have a fake Biggie Smalls and a fake Faith and you know, you guys are kicking them off stage.
And you know the young guys are like yo whatever. Word lets do it
Planet Ill: We trying to get on so we dont care what it is.
General Steele: Right! Again Tek lives up the block form them. We hang out with them, we smoke with these cats. And some of them we went to school with so were not really thinking like were about to get into some drama right now. And thats the thing with the young artists again where you see right now being perpetuated amongst these young cats right now. Totally lack respect and if I could turn back the hands of time for anything that would be one of the things right there because that shyt was so petty. Its so petty man and that brother [Biggie] he wasnt that type of cat. And not to mention that that particular line, that particular chorus, they BOTH stole! Nobody really own it, it belongs to another n***a.
The way it happened it was like, Oh Wow! Thats our single we was about to come out with that. Yoo! And then you have all these other cats, all these outside industry label cats that are like Yo, lets take advantage of this and bla bla bla. Thats a publicity stunt gone wrong on the part of the label wanting to press for that and push for that. They pushed for that shyt. When you look at that video, you see Tek and Steele in there for about 1.2 seconds. Cause we wanted nothing to do with that shyt. But at the same time, if we would have said, Dont do this guys, wed have looked like the older cats that was hating.
Planet Ill: Oh you gone let them diss us?
General Steele: Right. Come on you did your shyt, let me do me. But I support the youngins but at the same time I try to guide them as much as possible. But the thing about youngins they want to make they own way. They want to make they own bones. So sometimes you get caught up in these things and get swept away. Its fortunate that that was able to be fixed even after all the craziness
Planet Ill: It didnt go too far after the studio incident.
General Steele: That studio incident was crazy man. Me personally, I be getting in trouble with Boot Camp because I be wanting to tell the whole truth and nothing but truth. But I wasnt there at the studio, so my truth would be third party truth. So for the cats that was there at the studio, if none of them cats want to talk about the details, Starang Wondah personally, uh, Dru, Buck and couple other cats that was there. If they dont want to tell the whole truth I guess they want of let that shyt just go; its old news things are back.
We lost a good brother [Biggie] and thank God it had nothing to do with that, just some other stupid ass reason. But I love Biggie an I have a love for Jr. Mafia as well and they good cats and we all out here trying to do our thin and survive in this music.
Planet Ill: Whatever happened to Starang and the rest of OGC? Are they still in-house? Whats going on with them?
General Steele: Top Dog is on the Monumental Album. Starang was just recently released from prison and Louisville is out if Atlanta. Rockness Monstah just came and recorded in my studio to send his verse to Louisville. So Louieville had metamorphosized into this soul artist. Let ti be known the General is going to talk the truth. Im not going to give you all these corny ass fake one liners. But these guys havent recorded together since their last album. Starang retired back then, he aint want no parts of this shyt anymore. But for some reason Boot Camp will not let this guy put is pen down. Whether its Sean P having one on one talk with him or whether its Rockness Monstah having talks with him. And then you got Dru Ha. They stay trying to persuade him or coerce him to put his pen right up.
But one thing about Starang, hes not a flashy rapper; hes one of these character rap guys. Hes done rhymes without writing at all. Now Im going to say a lot fo his stuff was done without writing at all cause he actually knows what he wants to say, he talks about whats going on. Hes story orientated and its not too much rippity rappity like some of the stuff I do
Planet Ill: Not technically proficient but telling a tale
General Steele: Right hes not into that. Its in the works, were about to start working on the Boot Camp album. They have been talking amongst each other in terms of getting back in the studio and doing an OGC project, and I really hope that they do. We hope that they do because they split up and right now they really need to get back together.
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Behind The Beef: Junior Mafia Vs. OGCHip-Hop Culture 17 December 2011
By Odeisel
We sat with General Steele a while ago for an extensive interview after police shut down the release party of the very dope Monumental album by Pete Rock & Smif N Wessun. After we got through with the nitty gritty , I wanted to ask about a beef tat flew under the radar for years outside of BK Hip-Hop and New York. During an ongoing misunderstanding between Duck Down group OGC (Originoo Gunn Clappaz) and Biggies Junior Mafia, Starang Wondah from OGC got run up on in the legendary D&D Studios. Thankfully no one got seriously hurt and eventually the beef was squashed. But for those who didnt know or those who wondered what the hell it was all about, we got that butter. Enjoy.
***LISTEN*** General-Steele-Talks-Junior-Mafia-OGC-Beef.mp3
Planet Ill: There was a little something with Biggie and OGC . Now everyone looks back [at Biggie] like, greatest rapper of all time, and theres universal love. But tell us about some of the animus that was going on back then. What was the source of the problem and how did you move forward from that?
General Steele: This incident with Biggie and Jr. Mafia man, looking back at it now, and even looking at it then, it was due to immaturity. Cats were young and eager and Hip-Hop will mold your mind into something at times. I only say that because OGC, they had did a song where Top Dog starts, I can be as good as the rest of them but as baaad as the worst, so dont test me Thats how he started his rhyme.
So one night, we went to the Palladium and that was the first night that these guys performed that song. Biggie and Jr. Mafia was there. Couple days later, what do we hear on the radio? You can be as good as the rest of them but as baaad as the worst in the chorus that Biggie had did. Immediately cats was like, Oh shyt! Why would he do that? Misinterpretations and dudes was upset. They like wow, he steal from us? Thats family, yadda yadda, and cats wanted to do something about it. He stole their verse.
Now mind you these are the young cats.
Planet Ill: Yeah they the babies so yall gotta
General Steele: Yeah. We taking the heat, but at the same time me and Tek was the ones that was like that shyt aint about nothing. But not you got this industry shyt factored in where its like, Wait a minute, maybe you guys can use this. We actually had producers of videos, video producers offering to say, hey why dont we have a fake Biggie Smalls and a fake Faith and you know, you guys are kicking them off stage.
And you know the young guys are like yo whatever. Word lets do it
Planet Ill: We trying to get on so we dont care what it is.
General Steele: Right! Again Tek lives up the block form them. We hang out with them, we smoke with these cats. And some of them we went to school with so were not really thinking like were about to get into some drama right now. And thats the thing with the young artists again where you see right now being perpetuated amongst these young cats right now. Totally lack respect and if I could turn back the hands of time for anything that would be one of the things right there because that shyt was so petty. Its so petty man and that brother [Biggie] he wasnt that type of cat. And not to mention that that particular line, that particular chorus, they BOTH stole! Nobody really own it, it belongs to another n***a.
The way it happened it was like, Oh Wow! Thats our single we was about to come out with that. Yoo! And then you have all these other cats, all these outside industry label cats that are like Yo, lets take advantage of this and bla bla bla. Thats a publicity stunt gone wrong on the part of the label wanting to press for that and push for that. They pushed for that shyt. When you look at that video, you see Tek and Steele in there for about 1.2 seconds. Cause we wanted nothing to do with that shyt. But at the same time, if we would have said, Dont do this guys, wed have looked like the older cats that was hating.
Planet Ill: Oh you gone let them diss us?
General Steele: Right. Come on you did your shyt, let me do me. But I support the youngins but at the same time I try to guide them as much as possible. But the thing about youngins they want to make they own way. They want to make they own bones. So sometimes you get caught up in these things and get swept away. Its fortunate that that was able to be fixed even after all the craziness
Planet Ill: It didnt go too far after the studio incident.
General Steele: That studio incident was crazy man. Me personally, I be getting in trouble with Boot Camp because I be wanting to tell the whole truth and nothing but truth. But I wasnt there at the studio, so my truth would be third party truth. So for the cats that was there at the studio, if none of them cats want to talk about the details, Starang Wondah personally, uh, Dru, Buck and couple other cats that was there. If they dont want to tell the whole truth I guess they want of let that shyt just go; its old news things are back.
We lost a good brother [Biggie] and thank God it had nothing to do with that, just some other stupid ass reason. But I love Biggie an I have a love for Jr. Mafia as well and they good cats and we all out here trying to do our thin and survive in this music.
Planet Ill: Whatever happened to Starang and the rest of OGC? Are they still in-house? Whats going on with them?
General Steele: Top Dog is on the Monumental Album. Starang was just recently released from prison and Louisville is out if Atlanta. Rockness Monstah just came and recorded in my studio to send his verse to Louisville. So Louieville had metamorphosized into this soul artist. Let ti be known the General is going to talk the truth. Im not going to give you all these corny ass fake one liners. But these guys havent recorded together since their last album. Starang retired back then, he aint want no parts of this shyt anymore. But for some reason Boot Camp will not let this guy put is pen down. Whether its Sean P having one on one talk with him or whether its Rockness Monstah having talks with him. And then you got Dru Ha. They stay trying to persuade him or coerce him to put his pen right up.
But one thing about Starang, hes not a flashy rapper; hes one of these character rap guys. Hes done rhymes without writing at all. Now Im going to say a lot fo his stuff was done without writing at all cause he actually knows what he wants to say, he talks about whats going on. Hes story orientated and its not too much rippity rappity like some of the stuff I do
Planet Ill: Not technically proficient but telling a tale
General Steele: Right hes not into that. Its in the works, were about to start working on the Boot Camp album. They have been talking amongst each other in terms of getting back in the studio and doing an OGC project, and I really hope that they do. We hope that they do because they split up and right now they really need to get back together.
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You got a link to the show?
And yeah it started wth BBC sending shots in videos, Biggie sent the Junior Mafia to beat up Starang outside D&D studios
BIGDENNIS10UK
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BIGDENNIS10UK
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Or if you got iTunes just put combat jack show in the search