TSC Evaluation #56: Barry Windham

[mrken12]

In the last evaluation, Kevin Nash got a score of 7.93.

TSC Evaluation #55: Kevin Nash

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Chyna: 5.74 http://www.thecoli.com/threads/tsc-evaluation-17-chyna.495012/
Val Venis: 5.36 http://www.thecoli.com/threads/tsc-evaluation-48-val-venis.558122/
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Sandman: 4.00 http://www.thecoli.com/threads/tsc-evaluation-36-the-sandman.535530/

If people have any requests for future wrestlers you want to see evaluated, let me know. I'll have one wrestler evaluated for each week every Wednesday. The leaderboard is updated every 5 threads so it's never too late to vote for previous threads.

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Pending requests: Ted DiBiase, Jake The Snake Roberts, Big Show, Rikishi, The Godfather, Stan Hansen, Christian Cage, Goldust, Eddie Gilbert, Scott Hall, Alex Wright, Perry Saturn, Dean Malenko, Dusty Rhodes, Triple H, Chris Candido

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Major Accomplishments

Championship Wrestling from Florida
NWA Florida Global Tag Team Championship (1x) – with Ron Bass
NWA Florida Heavyweight Championship (6x)
NWA Florida Tag Team Championship (2x) – with Mike Graham (1) and Scott McGhee (1)
NWA Florida Television Championship (3x)
NWA North American Tag Team Championship (Florida version) (1x) – with Mike Graham
NWA Southern Heavyweight Championship (Florida version) (2x)
NWA United States Tag Team Championship (Florida version) (3x) – with Mike Rotunda

Jim Crockett Promotions / World Championship Wrestling
NWA United States Heavyweight Championship (1x)
NWA United States Tag Team Championship (1x) – with Ron Garvin
NWA Western States Heritage Championship (1x)
NWA World Heavyweight Championship (1x)
NWA World (Mid-Atlantic)/WCW World Tag Team Championship (4x) – with Lex Luger (1), Dustin Rhodes (1), Curt Hennig (1), and Kendall Windham (1)
WCW World Television Championship (1x)

NWA All-Star Wrestling (North Carolina)
NWA World Tag Team Championship (1x) - with Tully Blanchard

NWA New England
NWA New England Heavyweight Championship (1x)

NWA Southern Championship Wrestling
NWA Southern Heavyweight Championship (Tennessee version) (2x)

Pro Wrestling Illustrated
PWI Most Improved Wrestler of the Year (1982)
PWI ranked him #11 of the top 500 singles wrestlers in the PWI 500 in 1993
PWI ranked him #35 of the top 500 singles wrestlers of the "PWI Years" in 2003
PWI ranked him #48 of the top 100 tag teams of the "PWI Years" with Mike Rotunda in 2003
PWI ranked him #87 of the top 100 tag teams of the "PWI Years" with Dustin Rhodes in 2003
PWI ranked him #90 of the top 100 tag teams of the "PWI Years" with Lex Luger in 2003

Turnbuckle Championship Wrestling
TCW Heavyweight Championship (2x)

World Wrestling Council
WWC World Tag Team Championship (1x) – with Kendall Windham

World Wrestling Federation/WWE
NWA North American Heavyweight Championship (1x)
WWE Hall of Fame (Class of 2012)
WWF Tag Team Championship (2x) – with Mike Rotunda

Wrestling Observer Newsletter awards
Rookie of the Year (1980)
Match of the Year (1986) vs. Ric Flair on February 14
5 Star Match (1987) vs. Ric Flair at the Crockett Cup Tournament on April 11
5 Star Match (1991) with Ric Flair, Larry Zbyszko, & Sid Vicious vs. Brian Pillman, Sting, Rick Steiner, & Scott Steiner (February 24, WarGames match, WrestleWar)
5 Star Match (1992) with Nikita Koloff, Ricky Steamboat, Sting & Dustin Rhodes vs. Rick Rude, Steve Austin, Arn Anderson, Bobby Eaton, & Larry Zbyszko (May 17, WarGames Match, WrestleWar)


With a scale of 1-10 how would you rate Barry Windham in these categories:

-Mic work/promos

-Personality/gimmicks

-Ring work (along with some of your favorite matches/feuds)

-Overall rating (which doesn't have to be an average of the above scores)

 

[Kunty McPhuck]

The best and most laziest out of the Windham/Rotunda clan, just didn't care to be the man and made a few questionable decisions when it came to his career.

By the time he was hitting his wrestling peak, early 30's he was already on the decline unfortunately, due to injuries and I guess that's what happens when you start out early and been on the road for already over a decade.

Had one of the best gimmick names in the Widowmaker.

Had a good matches with Flair in the 80's and is part of the 2 best war games matches ever.

Also a staple of the Horsemen in the late 80's and early 90's.

Overall 7. Mainly because he's forgotten when talking about wrestlers from the 80's, but then when his name is bought up, you remember how good he was and felt he should of done alot more with his career.

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

He was good but was overrated by "the boys" to be honest. As a fan he never hit home like that. I'll rate later but that's my immediate response.

 

[Amor fati]

I respect him for duking it out with Billy Jack Haynes.

 

[The Intergalactic Koala]

7 from me.

Windham personified that whole brawling "fukk your feelings" type of style to wrestling. He was a suitable horseman to replace Ole . His promos were eh, but nevermind the talking, dude was about putting in that work in the ring.

Bottom line, Barry was like that average wrestler that somebody would create on WWE 2K17 that somehow did good in universe mode.

 

[Riley Escobar]

@ Nash getting 0.01 less than CM Punk

 

[stro]

Could have truly been one of the GOATs had he kept his shyt and body together. Unfortunately, he wasn't able to for any more than a couple of years at a time and he's one of the biggest "what ifs" of the past 30 years, imo. He just made shyt look so effortless. I give him a 7 due to wasting much of his career.

 

[Hoss]

The only criticism I've got is something that's already been said: for whatever reason, he always left you with the feeling he could have been much a much bigger deal than he ever was.

But this dude's ring work for a man his size was on another level, and that worker/persona combination was a perfect fit for The Horsemen (and in my opinion, The Horsemen in their prime, concept-wise, was as good as pro wrestling got). He was definitely my favorite wrestler during his peak.
He was not a great talker, but he didn't have to be. He was always more of a presence than a personality and I actually liked that about him.

I'd give him a 9 but I'll admit I'm biased.

 

[Hey_zeus]

I gave Barry an 8 for his early potential. Others have already mentioned how smooth he was in the 80s and how quickly his ability fell off the cliff in the early 90s. His work at it's best is fantastic which is disappointing that outside elements contributed to him never reaching the heights he should have.

 

[puppetmaster]

The only criticism I've got is something that's already been said: for whatever reason, he always left you with the feeling he could have been much a much bigger deal than he ever was.

But this dude's ring work for a man his size was on another level, and that worker/persona combination was a perfect fit for The Horsemen (and in my opinion, The Horsemen in their prime, concept-wise, was as good as pro wrestling got). He was definitely my favorite wrestler during his peak.
He was not a great talker, but he didn't have to be. He was always more of a presence than a personality and I actually liked that about him.

I'd give him a 9 but I'll admit I'm biased.

The man has spoken. And I co-sign

 

[Cheercomp]

One of my favorite wrestlers. Whether he was a heel or face, dude kept me glued to the screen. During his NWA championship run when he beat Muta for the title I was so into his badass lone wolf shtick. In the ring, Barry could pull a good to watchable match out of anyone. I'm rolling with an 8

 

[Ill Lou Malnati]

-Mic work/promos: 5. Can't recall anything about his promos, really.

-Personality/gimmicks: 6. He looked good as either the young baby face or scum bag in NWA/WCW. WWF's Stalker and New Blackjack gimmicks were obviously terrible.

-Ring work (along with some of your favorite matches/feuds): 7. I enjoyed his feuds with Luger and Pillman. He's been involved in a lot of great matches, most of them tag matches.

-Overall rating (which doesn't have to be an average of the above scores): 6. By 1990 (the year I started watching wrestling heavy), he was on the downside of what he used to be in the NWA in the '80s. He became pretty lazy and out of shape by the mid '90s (and he would've only been 35 years old). And, personally, I've always felt he was overrated anyway.

 

[Tommy Fits]

I give him a 7, I remember I always enjoyed his matches but I can't remember specifics

 

[Jmare007]

At his peak, one of the GOAT wrestlers ever, too bad it didn't last long.

 

[TheWhackMamba]

He was good but was overrated by "the boys" to be honest. As a fan he never hit home like that. I'll rate later but that's my immediate response.

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