TSC Evaluation #19: Raven

[mrken12]

In the last evaluation, Andre The Giant got a score of 8.03.

TSC Evaluation #18: Andre The Giant

Rey Mysterio Jr.: 8.78 TSC Evaluation #15: Rey Mysterio Jr
Scott Steiner: 8.64 TSC Evaluation #2: Scott Steiner
Terry Funk: 8.36 TSC Evaluation #11: Terry Funk
Vader: 8.26 TSC Evaluation #12: Vader
Rob Van Dam: 8.12 TSC Evaluation #9: Rob Van Dam
DDP: 8.00 TSC Evaluation #16: Diamond Dallas Page
CM Punk: 7.94 TSC Evaluation #7: CM Punk
Roddy Piper: 7.44 TSC Evaluation #6: Roddy Piper
Goldberg: 7.08 TSC Evaluation #3: Goldberg
Sycho Sid: 6.96 TSC Evaluation #4: Sycho Sid / Sid Vicious
Ultimate Warrior: 6.65 TSC Evaluation #10: The Ultimate Warrior
D'Lo Brown: 6.56 TSC Evaluation #13: D'Lo Brown
Lex Luger: 5.98 TSC Evaluation #8: Lex Luger
Tazz: 5.94 TSC Evaluation #5: Tazz
Chyna: 5.51 TSC Evaluation #17: Chyna
Jeff Jarrett: 4.50 TSC Evaluation: Jeff Jarrett
Tommy Dreamer: 4.00 TSC Evaluation #14: Tommy Dreamer


If people have any requests for future wrestlers you want to see evaluated, let me know. I'll have one wrestler evaluated for each week every Tuesday.

For big #20, it will be Sting. That should be a good one.

Pending requests: Edge, Rick Rude, Ted DiBiase, Jake The Snake Roberts, Bam Bam Bigelow, Kurt Angle, Batista, Booker T, Billy Gunn, X-Pac, Kane, Undertaker, Big Show, Rikishi, Mr. Perfect, Owen Hart, Chris Kanyon, Mike Awesome, The Godfather, Val Venis, Big Boss Man, JBL, Junkyard Dog, Harley Race, Stan Hansen, Sgt. Slaughter, Eddie Guerrero, Christian, Brian Pillman, Goldust, William Regal, Tully Blanchard, Arn Anderson, Sabu
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Major accomplishments

All Action Wrestling
AAW Championship (1x)

Australasian Wrestling Federation
AWF Australasian Championship (1x)

Extreme Championship Wrestling
ECW World Heavyweight Championship (2x)
ECW World Tag Team Championship (4x) – with Stevie Richards (2), Tommy Dreamer (1), and Mike Awesome (1)

Heartland Wrestling Association
HWA Tag Team Championship (1x) – with Hugh Morrus

High Risk Pro Wrestling
HRPW World Heavyweight Championship (1x)

Juggalo Championship Wrestling
JCW Tag Team Championship (1x) – with Sexy Slim Goody

Legends Pro Wrestling
LPW Hall of Fame (2010)

Laredo Wrestling Alliance
LWA Hardcore Championship (1x)
LWA Hall of Fame (2012)

Mid-Eastern Wrestling Federation
MEWF Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Championship (1x)

National Wrestling Alliance
NWA Central States Heavyweight Championship (1x)

National Wrestling Federation
NWF Heavyweight Championship (1x)

Pacific Northwest Wrestling
NWA Pacific Northwest Heavyweight Championship (3x)
NWA Pacific Northwest Tag Team Championship (3x) – with Top Gun (1), The Grappler (1), and Steve Doll (1)
NWA Pacific Northwest Television Championship (1x)

Pro-Pain Pro Wrestling
3PW World Heavyweight Championship (1x)

Pro Wrestling Illustrated
PWI ranked him #22 of the top 500 singles wrestlers in the PWI 500 in 2003
PWI ranked him #168 in the "PWI Years" in 2003

Total Nonstop Action Wrestling
NWA World Heavyweight Championship (1x)
King of the Mountain (2005)

United States Xtreme Wrestling
UXW Heavyweight Championship (4x)

United States Wrestling Association
USWA World Tag Team Championship (1x) – with Brian Christopher

United States Wrestling Organization
USWO Heavyweight Championship (1x)

USA Pro Wrestling
USA Pro Championship (1x)

Vanguard Championship Wrestling
VCW Championship (1x)

World Championship Wrestling
WCW Light Heavyweight Championship (1x)
WCW United States Heavyweight Championship (1x)
WCW World Tag Team Championship (1x) – with Perry Saturn

World Wrestling Federation/Entertainment
WWF/E Hardcore Championship (27x)

Miscellaneous
Member of MENSA




With a scale of 1-10 how would you rate Raven in these categories:

-Mic work/promos

-Personality/gimmicks

-Ring work (along with some of your favorite matches/feuds)

-Overall rating (which doesn't have to be an average of the above scores)

 

[Alexander The Great]

really underrated. that Raven gimmick could have been bigger in the wwf if it was there at a different time. he came to the wwf at a time when they wouldn't let his real raven gimmick work.

8 - mic
8 - gimmick
5 - ring work
7 - overall

 

[Golayitdown]

7.75

9 Mic
9 Gimmick
5 Ringwork


Love his gimmick (for the time) and his mic work was always excellent to me. The flock was dope too. His evenflow DDT was awesome but I can't remember shyt else about his ring work.

 

[Here Comes the Pain]

Raven ceiling was always meant to a upper midcarder at best.

He wasn't good enough to be in a main event scene stacked with big name talent.

I just couldn't imagine him working programs with sting, Goldberg, macho man, Kevin nash, the rock, austin, taker, hhh, angle, etc on a regular basis.

I think he was solid in the ring and shine most when there wasn't as many big name talent similarly to Jeff Jarrett.

Overall I'll give him a vague 6.

 

[TL15]

Quote the Raven...

He's a 4



Being serious there is no way he had a bigger impact than Chyna. I don't care about his longevity or anything else. If we aren't going off of a weighted scale, I have to give him a 5 purely on the strength that no one outside of wrestling knows Raven like they know Chyna

 

[mrken12]

Quote the Raven...

He's a 4



Being serious there is no way he had a bigger impact than Chyna. I don't care about his longevity or anything else. If we aren't going off of a weighted scale, I have to give him a 5 purely on the strength that no one outside of wrestling knows Raven like they know Chyna

It's not about how everyone else rated someone. It's about how YOU rate them.

 

[TL15]

It's not about how everyone else rated someone. It's about how YOU rate them.

Breh... Thats how I made my decision lol... I'm allowed to. Relax

 

[WhatsGoodTy]

10 for everything but his ring work it wasn't all that. His stuff was so deep and it didn't take till later to realize how great his gimmick was

 

[⚡⚡⚡]

9. Very talented and was underutilized as fukk. Way ahead of his time that the bookers don't know what to do with him back in WCW. And should've been WCW Champion.

 

[TheWhackMamba]

8

Dudes was awesome

 

[Starboy52]

7. Don't remember much in the ring outside of hardcore matches, but he was pretty much a notch below GOAT tier on the mic and good to great as a gimmick.

 

[The Girl From Innsmouth]

These are always super hard. I didn't see the Raven in ECW stuff until I was much older, but I did love what he did in WCW a great deal. Excellent on the mic, really creative, solid wrestling when he wasn't just doing garbage matches. Again, one of the reasons I watched the first hour and a half of WCW and then switched to WWF's main event. The mid-card stuff (basically anything not tied up in the stupid NWO nonsense) was far and away better than the WWF's midcard.

I'll say 8, overall.

 

[Psychosis]

10 for everything but his ring work it wasn't all that. His stuff was so deep and it didn't take till later to realize how great his gimmick was

He admits he was the original 5 moves of doom. He's the og of working smart. He considered his trademark 'sitting in the corner' one of his 5 moves .
This one's tricky tbh.

 

[Dark is the night]

6, guy has an overinflated sense of self importance to the business and seems to think he was much better than he was

He got exposed once he got from under the jew that hes not able to be a true mainstream star

There are maybe 3 raven matches that I can ever remember being worth a shyt

1. Against C____ B_____ on nitro in panama city when he got the shyt chopped out of him

2. The double dog collar ecw tag team title match with stevie richards against the pitbulls

3. The match with Goldberg

Other than that, never been a fan of his shyt

 

[Mr. Negative]

"what about ME!? What about...... Raven? "