This just in, Arum’s Mayweather tirades are getting old [Article]

[BlackMajik]

By Lyle Fitzsimmons

Bob Arum is better at promoting fights than I am at anything I’ve ever tried.

He’s got a track record that stretches farther than my 45 years, and his contractual relationships with guys like Manny Pacquiao and Tim Bradley, among others, seem to indicate that he’ll be relevant on the sport’s top shelf for just as long as he wants to be.

But for crying out loud, he’s got to get over this Mayweather thing.

I mean, I get it. They used to work together, now they don’t. He used to say Floyd was one of the best fighters he’d ever seen, but now he’s a coward focused only on money and remaining unbeaten.

It’s a lot like commentary that could be applied to any relationship when it veers from hot to cold.

What starts out as “She’s wonderful and attractive and I hang on her every word” quickly deteriorates to “I was never that into her in the first place, I just wanted to get in good with her sister.”

Still, after a while, those principals do move on to other things.

That doesn’t seem to be the case with Bob, though.

Wherever and whenever he gets a chance, there’s either a cleverly veiled or completely outspoken shot across the Mayweather bow – and it continued well into the night on Saturday at the MGM Grand, after Pacquiao and Bradley went another 12 entertaining rounds.

This time, his rant centered on the venue’s next big welterweight match, in which Mayweather will face WBA champion Marcos Maidana to unify their 147-pound slices on May 3.

“The Mayweather fight is bad for the public, who are being talked to about spending good money on nonsense, and it’s bad for MGM, which continues to peddle non-competitive matches,” he said. “If you think it’s not competitive, write it. Don’t not write it because he’ll deny you access.”

While I thank Mr. Arum for his impromptu lecture on journalism ethics, it’s getting a little old.

Sure, Mayweather’s a big favorite to beat Maidana – a 12-1 pick according to the boys at VegasInsider.com. But given the landscape in the welterweight division in the midst of a freeze-out between the top promotional entities, exactly who else was he supposed to fight?

I’ll concede Maidana is no Pacquiao, and I’d certainly prefer a Floyd-Manny match if given the option. But in the absence of that, “Chino” is a two-division championship claimant, he has won 18 of 19 fights above 140 pounds and he did whip an unbeaten three-division champ in his most recent fight.

Mayweather did legitimately go to the next weight class to beat a younger, stronger and just as unbeaten foe in his last fight, and, short of hopping up to 160 to meet middleweights – something I don’t see PacMan doing either, by the way – his reality is that he’s left to what’s in front of him.

And just because no one who sets odds thinks he can lose at 147, whose fault is that?

Funny, but I don’t recall Arum bellowing “write it if you think it’s not competitive” from the rooftops when Pacquiao was meeting Mayweather leftover Shane Mosley, when he didn’t hold a belt and hadn’t won a fight in 28 months. Back then, in fact, he was far more promoter than ethicist, claiming a 39-year-old “Sugar” would provide Manny with “a good, interesting, really exciting fight.”

And in the intervening few years, it’s not as if Pacquiao’s been busily tilling new ground.

Since he beat Mosley in what turned out to be a colossal dud, Manny is 3-2 in five fights – including two with Bradley, two with Juan Manuel Marquez and one with Brandon Rios, which was sold as World War III, but in reality was a masterfully crafted spar session designed mainly to regain Pac’s lost luster.

Meanwhile, Mayweather is 4-0 in the same stretch, having beaten a reigning welterweight belt-holder in Victor Ortiz, two reigning super welterweight belt-holders in Alvarez and Miguel Cotto (nine pounds heavier than where Pacquiao fought him, by the way) and a former two-division champ in Robert Guerrero who hadn’t lost a fight in more than seven years, including two at 147.

When it comes to competitive/relevant matches, sorry Bob, but it’s not even close.

And if what we’re left with for Pacquiao in the future is either Marquez V or Mike Alvarado I, the chasm doesn’t get any narrower.

No matter how hard you stomp your feet from behind the podium.

 

[BlackMajik]

Great Article

Damn I meant to post this in The Ring

 

[Newzz]

I love how he says "during the same stretch" and only posts 4 of Mayweather's fights.

What about Victor Ortiz, who Floyd fought?


And Manny's last 5 fights (Marquez, Bradley, Marquez, Rios, and Bradley) was against just as good or even tougher group of opponents than Floyd's (Ortiz, Guerrero, Cotto, Alvarez, Maidana).


That article was pointless and very bias towards Floyd.

He says:

And if what we’re left with for Pacquiao in the future is either Marquez V or Mike Alvarado I, the chasm doesn’t get any narrower.

What about Floyd? What....we're supposed to be excited for a fight with him vs Amir KHAN?


I dont wanna see Floyd vs Khan, but with the cupboards are as bare as they are, Khan is better than seeing Floyd vs Paulie Malignaggi or Shawn Porter or Kell Brook


The ONLY was it can go, in the interests of both fighters and more importantly....the BOXING FAN, is for Floyd's next 2 opponents be Amir Khan and then Danny Garcia while Pac fights JMM and Provodnikov.

After those 2 fights, they meet in September 2015 with a Floyd Mayweather vs Manny Pacquiao fight.



That's it and that's what needs to happen

 

[BlackMajik]

I love how he says "during the same stretch" and only posts 4 of Mayweather's fights.

What about Victor Ortiz, who Floyd fought?


And Manny's last 5 fights (Marquez, Bradley, Marquez, Rios, and Bradley) was against just as good or even tougher group of opponents than Floyd's (Ortiz, Guerrero, Cotto, Alvarez, Maidana).


That article was pointless and very bias towards Floyd.

He says:



What about Floyd? What....we're supposed to be excited for a fight with him vs Amir KHAN?


I dont wanna see Floyd vs Khan, but with the cupboards are as bare as they are, Khan is better than seeing Floyd vs Paulie Malignaggi or Shawn Porter or Kell Brook


The ONLY was it can go, in the interests of both fighters and more importantly....the BOXING FAN, is for Floyd's next 2 opponents be Amir Khan and then Danny Garcia while Pac fights JMM and Provodnikov.

After those 2 fights, they meet in September 2015 with a Floyd Mayweather vs Manny Pacquiao fight.



That's it and that's what needs to happen

Bolded is bullshyt and u know it (Marquez, Bradley, Marquez, Rios, and Bradley) just as good or tougher than Floyds last 4. Yea right

An old ass slow Marquez that he lost to TWICE imo. Tim Bradley who has the talent but fights like a buffoon. Rios A fukkING WALKING PUNCHING BAG nikka ARE U SERIOUS

Canelo beats JMM, Bradley, Rios and Manny as well

 

[Miggs]

Bob Arum summed up why the May/Pac fight dont interest me anymore...

Floyd is dominant and good his fights tend to be less competitive and entertaining cuyz he destroys guys in the ring and renders them looking terrible where as Pac keeps lesser fighters competitive because his skills and speed has diminished and hes clearly declined to the point anyone has a punchers chance as we saw with Marquez...

 

[BlackMajik]

And here's another thing to realize about Manny that someone on another boxing forum pointed out

before Bradley Manny hasn't fought a guy that wasn't going down or coming up in weight for over 4 years FOUR YEARS

 

[Grams]

It blows my mind how @Newzz hates on Mayweather but the fighter he stans wishes he was Mayweather son

 

[Newzz]

Bolded is bullshyt and u know it (Marquez, Bradley, Marquez, Rios, and Bradley) just as good or tougher than Floyds last 4. Yea right

An old ass slow Marquez that he lost to TWICE imo. Tim Bradley who has the talent but fights like a buffoon. Rios A fukkING WALKING PUNCHING BAG nikka ARE U SERIOUS

Canelo beats JMM, Bradley, Rios and Manny as well

Canelo is a Junior Middleweight and he cant make 147 and the guys you claim he can beat cant make 154, so why the hypotheticals?


Marquez is a HOFer, Bradley may be a HOFer (only has 1 loss in his career and that's to Pac), and Rios is on the same level as Victor Ortiz

Cotto is a HOFer and was/is more washed up than Marquez is when Floyd fought him.....so what are you saying?

Guerrero is not on Bradley's level and never will be.

Alvarez is still unknown at this point until he gets an elite fighter's name on his resume.



Try again

 

[BlackMajik]

It blows my mind how @Newzz hates on Mayweather but the fighter he stans wishes he was Mayweather son

He a Broner fan???


Hell naw gtfoh. Garbage ass Broner lol. And he got the nerve to say Maidana ain't tougher than them guys Manny has fought. But he sho nuff knocked the stuffing outta whack ass Broner lol

 

[Miggs]

And here's another thing to realize about Manny that someone on another boxing forum pointed out

Its laughable anything Freddie Roach or Arum say at this point...Hes been protected for quite awhile,clearly for a reason...yet they both lie on record saying May wont come to the table

Its all just a confusion trick by the whole camp to cloud the facts and they bank on the casual public not knowing the history errr it becomes a he said she said....any real boxing fan knows top rank has been running for years and making lame excuses...

 

[NYC Rebel]

Canelo is a Junior Middleweight and he cant make 147 and the guys you claim he can beat cant make 154, so why the hypotheticals?


Marquez is a HOFer, Bradley may be a HOFer (only has 1 loss in his career and that's to Pac), and Rios is on the same level as Victor Ortiz

Cotto is a HOFer and was/is more washed up than Marquez is when Floyd fought him.....so what are you saying?

Guerrero is not on Bradley's level and never will be.

Alvarez is still unknown at this point until he gets an elite fighter's name on his resume.



Try again

bullshyt.

Cotto is a much better fighter at 154 than he was being a weight drained Pac opponent. And Bradley was a joke.

And to bring up Marquez "HOF" resume as if he wasn't summarily dispatched by Floyd and then went on to knock out Pac....man please.

Someone needs to up that list of Arum excuses for this thread so Newz can magically make up an excuse for each and every one of them.

 

[Newzz]

It blows my mind how @Newzz hates on Mayweather but the fighter he stans wishes he was Mayweather son

Dont confuse "truths" with "hate"


One thread, Im called a Floyd stan....the next, Im a Pac stan

Bob Arum summed up why the May/Pac fight dont interest me anymore...

Floyd is dominant and good his fights tend to be less competitive and entertaining cuyz he destroys guys in the ring and renders them looking terrible where as Pac keeps lesser fighters competitive because his skills and speed has diminished and hes clearly declined to the point anyone has a punchers chance as we saw with Marquez...

Who are these lesser fighters that Pacquiao is fighting?


JMM is a HOF fighter and still a B+ at this point in his career as is Timothy Bradley (a B+ fighter). Brandon Rios is a C+/B- fighter.


Floyd has fought Cotto (HOFer), but is a B- fighter at this point, Alvarez is unknown but a B+ fighter, Guerrero is a B fighter, and Victor Ortiz is a C+ fighter.

 

[BlackMajik]

@Newzz nikka i ain't even replying to u anymore

U a Broner fan lol[DOUBLEPOST=1397582397][/DOUBLEPOST]Floyd used JMM as a tune up fight

 

[Newzz]

He a Broner fan???


Hell naw gtfoh. Garbage ass Broner lol. And he got the nerve to say Maidana ain't tougher than them guys Manny has fought. But he sho nuff knocked the stuffing outta whack ass Broner lol

If Broner is garbage and "whack".......then how do you give Maidana points for beating him?



Dummies, i swear

 

[BlackMajik]

Its laughable anything Freddie Roach or Arum say at this point...Hes been protected for quite awhile,clearly for a reason...yet they both lie on record saying May wont come to the table

Its all just a confusion trick by the whole camp to cloud the facts and they bank on the casual public not knowing the history errr it becomes a he said she said....any real boxing fan knows top rank has been running for years and making lame excuses...

Arum has come up with ALL kinda excuses lol

Where is his imaginary stadium that he said he was building again???

Oh and all the blatant ducks by Pacquiao are hilarious. I'll try to find the video that exposes him