the whites and the japanese deserve a lot of credit for hip hop

[War Word the Arch Angel]

lets be real, the Japanese (specifically mr nakamuru) created the drum machines from the tr-707 to the 808 to the 909.

many hip hop artists simply took the beats off those machines and rapped over them. the grooves, sounds and programming was done by the Japanese.(especially because many of the early drum machines could not be user-programmed)

then you have the 'funky soul' of people like prince and who owe their sound to the linn LM-1 drum machine which was created by a white. the creator of the linn lm-1 was the first person to ever use digital samples in a drum machine.

so it seems hip hop actually is a universal human culture, its not owned by any one race. especially with the fact that many of the most classic hip hop samples were straight loops taken from whites like bob james and david axelrod.

we could go deeper, and we will; this is an interesting discussion.

 

[wet landscapes]

I don't think people are really trying to say "no whites allowed", I think it's just a group of black people are tired of things being about other races (mostly white people). On tv, in non rap music, on billboards, on products, etc. So when they listen to what is generally thought of as "black" music and see white people there as well they feel all
I think this is about the over saturation of whites in the media.
I could be wrong though.

 

[War Word the Arch Angel]

I do see peoples point in that, what would white people have done with those drum machines? well you'd have "white music" like peter Gabriel and Fleetwood mac pop records.

because that is what they did with those drum machines. they made pop and new wave and dance stuff.

African americans did something really raw and urgent with those tools. but I do see hip hop as being a universal melting pot. its like the language of most youth!

but credit must be given to the inventors of the technology that allowed this all to happen. their life blood is just as embedded. you know those Japanese guys were on speed for weeks at a time working non stop on their musical ideas. which then gave that life blood to the poor youth half a world away.

the invention of the mass market cassette tape in 1978' was a huge factor I believe in hip hop too.

 

[Capo Dei Capi]

 

[10:31]

so glad you CACs are exposing yourselves

 

[Londilon]

lets be real, the Japanese (specifically mr nakamuru) created the drum machines from the tr-707 to the 808 to the 909.

many hip hop artists simply took the beats off those machines and rapped over them. the grooves, sounds and programming was done by the Japanese.(especially because many of the early drum machines could not be user-programmed)

then you have the 'funky soul' of people like prince and who owe their sound to the linn LM-1 drum machine which was created by a white. the creator of the linn lm-1 was the first person to ever use digital samples in a drum machine.

so it seems hip hop actually is a universal human culture, its not owned by any one race. especially with the fact that many of the most classic hip hop samples were straight loops taken from whites like bob james and david axelrod.

we could go deeper, and we will; this is an interesting discussion.

Go away CAC.

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

I got a feeling this won't end well

 

[War Word the Arch Angel]

lol, ok I need to go deeper.

much of the early soundscapes in hip hop was created using synthesizers like the moog which were created by dr robert moog, a white. then the classic breakdancing robot voice comes from a vocoder.

African bambaata created his sound by using vocoder(created by americans in the 30's) and Fairlight synths(which ironically is an Australian invention, shout out iggy)

then we can move on to the mpc which was also created by someone who is now appearing to be one of the fathers of hip hop, roger linn.

sampling was a cornerstone in early hip hop, and where would hip hop be without samplers?

 

[Shade]

Get The fukk Outta Here.

 

[Thizzlam]

lets be real, the Japanese (specifically mr nakamuru) created the drum machines from the tr-707 to the 808 to the 909.

many hip hop artists simply took the beats off those machines and rapped over them. the grooves, sounds and programming was done by the Japanese.(especially because many of the early drum machines could not be user-programmed)

then you have the 'funky soul' of people like prince and who owe their sound to the linn LM-1 drum machine which was created by a white. the creator of the linn lm-1 was the first person to ever use digital samples in a drum machine.

so it seems hip hop actually is a universal human culture, its not owned by any one race. especially with the fact that many of the most classic hip hop samples were straight loops taken from whites like bob james and david axelrod.

we could go deeper, and we will; this is an interesting discussion.

What on Earth prompted you to start this thread at THIS moment in time?

 

[Capo Dei Capi]

and Fairlight synths(which ironically is an Australian invention, shout out iggy)

I'm on 10's can someone neg this cac for me

 

[Ineedmoney504]

my ignore list is eating tonight

 

[Ineedmoney504]

I'm on 10's can someone neg this cac for me

i got him

 

[Shade]

I'm on 10's can someone neg this cac for me

On it.

 

[ThaRealness]

This is the least intelligent argument you could possibly make