The Lack Of Ad-Libbing/Runs In White Music Is A Direct Effect Of...

[PhonZhi]

the lack of soul and compassion (melanin)that whites naturally lack. Blacks are the most compassionate group on the planet and our "soul" can be seen and heard tangibly via our music and dance. NOBODY on Earth can sing and dance like blacks. This is because we have "soul". The adlibs and runs that are synonymous with black singers (especially gospel singers) is due to our soul (flavor if you will). Ive been a listener of all genres most my life so i noticed a long time ago how "stale" white music is compared to ours. But even more i noticed the lack of ad-libbing/runs. This is the part of singing that comes directly from one's soul. I REALLY became of aware of it when Timberlake crossed over to our side. I noticed that even tho he had these "black" sounding beats by Timbaland he still wasnt bringing any real emotions to the songs like a Ginuwine. He's very cut and dry. The same as Robin Thicke, Taylor Swift and pretty much most white singers. The Pinks, Christina Aguilera's and Teena Marie's are exceptions and of course they are labeled as sounding "black". So to sum it up: as much as they may try, whites will never be able to authentically take over black music simply because they naturally lack what we have....flavor

 

[sportscribe]

Blacks are the most compassionate group on the planet towards non-black people and our "soul" can be seen and heard tangibly via our music and dance. N

fixed.

So to sum it up: as much as they may try, whites will never be able to authentically take over black music

 

[CinnaSlim]

nikka, fukk Elvis!

The few white girls I fukk wit.

 

[jadillac]

In 2015, you're not hearing many great adlibs/runs in NEW R&B(black music), unless it's from an established singer. Many of these new black singers have no depth, and believe it or not, MOST of what you hear regarding adlibs/runs comes from the producers or the songwriter. A large number of singers don't know how to sing, if that makes sense. They try to sing and do a run on their own and go off-key b/c they don't know how to sing out of structure. So they sing the song exactly the way the producer/writer singer instructs them, and that includes runs/adlibs. Unless it's a Beyonce level or Brian McKnight or someone else who's incredible & hands-on vocally.

But the MAIN thing is, alot of it depends on the chord structure of the song. 99% of black music is composed in minor keys, and that lends to more "soulful/passionate" sounding music. You can play around vocally more in the structure of a minor key composed song than you can in say a country song, which by the same token are about 99% major keys.

That being said, yes, many black singers voices have a different/richer texture, but there's more to it than meets the eye.







But this is the Coli, so I know where this thread is going

 

[wet landscapes]

white people make good headphone djs
the best are still black like Sango and Kaytranada though

 

[sportscribe]

nikka, fukk Elvis!

Tbh Vicki Yohe is the most soulful white singer I have ever heard sing.

My post was more of an allusion to the fact that those artists are basically performing black genres of music and are/were pretty much at the pinnacle of them.

Don't sleep on Janis Joplin either.

 

[PhonZhi]

You missed the point. None of them can do what a black singer does. Sam Smith could never sing from the soul like K-Ci, R.Kelly or Wanya from Boys II Men. Adele could never sing like Jennifer Hudson, Fantasia or Jasmine Sullivan. And the main knock on Eminem is that his music lacks "soul". Are u white? You came in here pretty fast

fixed.

 

[Adidacs]

Pineal gland.

Direct link to melanin.

Same reason we run courts at every level of competition. Same reason our dikk game so good, no homo. Just a few obvious examples that we all know are facts.

Ancient knowledge.

Reminds me of this video I saw recently..



Then go on Vine and see blacks displaying that same type of ingenuity, just using different mediums. nikkas make beats out of absolutely anything in a heartbeat.. make melodies and dances and shyt right off the cuff. We all can do it too, that's the crazy part.

 

[PhonZhi]

Your rite. I couldnt even come up with any new school singers to use as an example. Maybe Trey. He can adlib at times. But todays "r&b" isnt really that anymore. And what u said about artists adlibs coming from the writers fits Rihanna to a T. She has ZERO soul

In 2015, you're not hearing many great adlibs/runs in NEW R&B(black music), unless it's from an established singer. Many of these new black singers have no depth, and believe it or not, MOST of what you hear regarding adlibs/runs comes from the producers or the songwriter. A large number of singers don't know how to sing, if that makes sense. They try to sing and do a run on their own and go off-key b/c they don't know how to sing out of structure. So they sing the song exactly the way the producer/writer singer instructs them, and that includes runs/adlibs. Unless it's a Beyonce level or Brian McKnight or someone else who's incredible & hands-on vocally.

But the MAIN thing is, alot of it depends on the chord structure of the song. 99% of black music is composed in minor keys, and that lends to more "soulful/passionate" sounding music. You can play around vocally more in the structure of a minor key composed song than you can in say a country song, which by the same token are about 99% major keys.

That being said, yes, many black singers voices have a different/richer texture, but there's more to it than meets the eye.







But this is the Coli, so I know where this thread is going

 

[PhonZhi]

Post me a link please. Would love to read up on this.

Pineal gland.

Direct link to melanin.

Ancient knowledge.

 

[Lifer11]

Man shyt like this comes off as an inferiority complex. Black people and people of all races need to stop worrying about white people's opinions and what white people are doing. Spending time trying to discredit what another person is doing just makes the person doing the discrediting seem weak, petty, and inferior. It also comes across as an acceptance of the white race (mainly the ones in power) as the superior race (I don't believe there is a superior race) and the ones who will always write history. Blacks need to just keep building. As more and more rise to positions of power they need to make their own media outlets that portray blacks and minorities in the way they see fit. fukk the Oscars and the Grammys, fukk Jewish/white owned media that claims racism is dead while clearly still being racist. Trying to prove a contradictory idea over one widely believed by the mainstream to people who are brainwashed by their TV and twitter/IG etc. is a complete waste of time. Focus on what you like and discuss it with like minded people, in doing so hopefully you can find open minded people and help them see the truth.

Nothing in life is absolute, no pun intended but nothing is black and white, there are always gray areas, exceptions to the rule etc. All white people do not lack compassion and soul, all black people do not possess compassion and soul. There's good and bad in everything and everyone. I know I rambled and went wayyyy off topic, I just tried to address what I believe is the underlying train of thought that leads to threads like this.

For the record I'm white and racism of any kind offends me. I've cut off friends for their refusal to show any growth in this matter.

 

[Lifer11]

A lot of blacks also need to realize that when you create something that people enjoy, others will always try to emulate it, you can't create something that is embraced by the masses and then expect it to stay exclusive to you at the same time. That's life and people of all races embracing anything and trying to create their own version of it is a beautiful thing. A white man invented the video camera and a white man was the first to make a motion picture, that doesn't mean that cinema/movies is a white artform and should only be done by whites.

 

[Knicksman20]

In 2015, you're not hearing many great adlibs/runs in NEW R&B(black music), unless it's from an established singer. Many of these new black singers have no depth, and believe it or not, MOST of what you hear regarding adlibs/runs comes from the producers or the songwriter. A large number of singers don't know how to sing, if that makes sense. They try to sing and do a run on their own and go off-key b/c they don't know how to sing out of structure. So they sing the song exactly the way the producer/writer singer instructs them, and that includes runs/adlibs. Unless it's a Beyonce level or Brian McKnight or someone else who's incredible & hands-on vocally.

But the MAIN thing is, alot of it depends on the chord structure of the song. 99% of black music is composed in minor keys, and that lends to more "soulful/passionate" sounding music. You can play around vocally more in the structure of a minor key composed song than you can in say a country song, which by the same token are about 99% major keys.

That being said, yes, many black singers voices have a different/richer texture, but there's more to it than meets the eye.







But this is the Coli, so I know where this thread is going

Very true. The older singers learned how to sing soulfully because they came up in the churches learned how to do runs. It's very rare to hear new school Black singers with that ability. It's taken alot of soul out of modern R&B music.

 

[Barnett114]

Marvin Gaye's adlibs

 

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