Take Derek Carr's garbage time numbers and he's literally the WOAT QB

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Derek Carr garbage time analysis taken from Reddit:


"Garbage time skewed Carr's stats considerably. :lupe:

Not just 6 TDs, he improved his yardage and efficiency stats too.

Defining garbage time as trailing by 9 or more points when starting a drive with less than 5 minutes to play (a situation where the defense doesn't mind allowing a dink and dunk TD drive that bleeds the block), the Raiders had 6 TD drives in garbage time last year, while the rest of the league combined had only 24.

They had 14 drive opportunities that met those criteria, meaning they scored on 43% of their drives in garbage time -- http://pfref.com/tiny/wO0ac -- (Packers were #1 in TD scoring per drive for the season as a whole at 33%).

The Raiders 6 garbage time TD drives -- http://pfref.com/tiny/hHAOb -- averaged 10.2 plays per drive and covered 76.7 yards in 2:21. That's 460 yards in total.

Oakland ran 81 passing plays (including sacks and some plays where McGloin was the QB late in the Miami game) in garbage time, the most in the league -- http://pfref.com/tiny/JsN5r -- and 12 rushing plays (including 3 by Carr) in that situation -- http://pfref.com/tiny/Nm6ej

Considering the Carr rushes as scrambles that were probably called passes, that means they had 84 pass plays compared to 9 run plays in garbage time, nearly a 90% pass rate.

No surprise that Carr put up the biggest numbers of attempts and yardage in the league in garbage time --http://pfref.com/tiny/JsN5r . Here are his stats: 42/68 (61.8%) for 444 yards (6.5 YPA), 6 TDs, 2 INTs, PR 97.9

Compared to his stats for the year as a whole, those numbers are almost all better (the INT% alone is worse).

Removing the garbage time numbers, Carr's stats otherwise: 302/531 (56.9%) for 2826 yards (5.32 YPA), 15 TDs, 10 INTs, PR 73.2

Carr's YPA was already one of the worst in league history, especially compared to the league average in that given year.


Looking for all QBs with 300+ attempts since 1970, Carr had the 16th lowest YPA with 5.46 (one of only 81 QBs to finish with a YPA below 6.1, what Vikings fans can think of as the Christian Ponder line) -- http://pfref.com/tiny/gV08P. On that table, a YPA of 5.32 (Carr without the bump in his stats from garbage time) would tie AJ Feeley for the 10th worst YPA season of all time.

Adjusting that same search to control for era (normalized against the league average YPA for each given year), Carr's 5.46 YPA is converted to a YPA+ (YPA index) of 61 -- where 100 is average. That's 3rd worst in league history --http://pfref.com/tiny/ddXBM -- behind only Rusty Hilger 1988 and Mark Rypien 1993 (Vikings fans, Ponder 2012 ends up 35th).

Take away Carr's yardage from garbage time, and he would've had the worst YPA+ season of all time.

:wtf: :dead:
 

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You didn't watch him you dumb mothafukka. I'm gonna neg you and hope you get negged in real life with a bullet.

Anybody that watches him can see he has poise and can make every throw. All these short throws were the result of him compensating for our shakey line. Especially in the beginning of the season.

Is he still a bit of a first read shorty? Yeah but he progressed as the season did. Let my bruh cook and give him a couple more years
 

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Bruh show me stats from the last 5-6 games. We literally had the WOAT running game for 12 games.
2013 Ravens bad? We averaged 2.9 yards a carry as a team on the year. 40% of our runs went for 2 yards or less and 25% of our run attempts led to our backs being hit in the backfield. Line graded out dead last in run blocking and the worst mark since the AFL/NFL merger. That level of bad? :huhldup:
 

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even in non-garbage time stats, how can you 'literally be the woat qb' with 61% completion %, 15 tds and 10 picks in your rookie year ? :wtf: do you know what 'woat' actually means ?
A yards per attempt that low though means he isn't making anything happen, but yeah charger and Cardinal and jet fans, and the raiduh nation from 2009 would like to disagree. Those of us in the Ravens flock remember 1996-2007 too. WOAT is not a term for Carr I think fits at this point in time.
 

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2013 Ravens bad? We averaged 2.9 yards a carry as a team on the year. 40% of our runs went for 2 yards or less and 25% of our run attempts led to our backs being hit in the backfield. Line graded out dead last in run blocking and the worst mark since the AFL/NFL merger. That level of bad? :huhldup:

Well maybe not that bad,but we had 1240 Yards on the ground for the year. Like 600 or so came in the last 6( Really 5 as Latavius missed a game in there) games :scusthov:

As a team they were rushing for like 55 yards a game and shyt for 2/3rds of the year
 

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A yards per attempt that low though means he isn't making anything happen
I dont understand what the fukk 'making anything happen' means in this context. hes making tds, completing passes and hes not throwing a ton of picks for a rookie.

low y/a attempt usually means the qb isnt attempting a lot of long throws, but even then not necessarily so; it can also mean a lot of dumpoffs, receivers having no yac, or high volume of passes without a good passing offense in place.

derek carr is example of the latter. carr was 7th in pass attempts in a passing offense that hasnt been a good offense in a while. even then, as a rookie on a raiders offense, he managed pretty well Id say. he wasnt amazing but no one expected him to be in his first year on a franchise thats been the butt of jokes for a decade.

hes been much more 'good' then 'bad'. and not even close to 'woat' status.
 
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