Reading that thread on the NOI and its obvious most of ya'll know nothing about the NOI

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As someone who was a member of the NOI and left because I got older and started to see life more realistic...I was reading that thread about the NOI recruiting and some of the responses just straight up told me ya'll know nothing about the NOI

I bet if I asked u how does one actually get into the NOI none of u could even tell me. But I'll tell you. First you have to go to C Class....Then when u are ready u go to A Class...Finally u have to write a letter to Chicago. Its a letter written by Elijah Muhammad and u have to right it exactly the way its written in the prototype they give u. If Chicago apporves, you change your last name to X and then u get watched for a period of time to where u can earn your name...most people get the name "Muhammad" This is basic knowledge. I'm reading some of the comments in that thread and most of the people in there sounded like "wanna be's." The pro Black jargon is so over the top on this site most of ya'll were just co signing bullsh*t and I have to call it. When I had mentioned in a previous thread that the NOi did business with the KKK some fukkboy mod gave me a low quality posting....why? Because I was telling truth and someone reported it? What kind of community does that? I challenge whoever that mod is to come in here and explain why me speaking on that was out of place. Show yourself! You see I'm not here to even bash the NOI because in all honesty some brothers go to prison and they can get support from the NOI. Some brothers just find confort in being in the NOI and who am I to disregard what makes someone fullfilled? Outside of that tho....I know for a fact that the NOI is only something u join if u really wanna be a Farrakhan follower.

Joining the NOI is not for someone seeking true Islam, you wanna be in the NOI? That means u wanna be a Farrakhan follower, bottom line. And thats where I drew the line. I was someone who actually attended the Million Man March and I can tell u that the march was not for Black people...It was for Farrakhans followers. It was him putting on a show for his followers, not Black people. Why u say that I ask? Well just tell me what u remember from that March..I'll wait. U see no one remembers what Farrakhan was talking about in that march. Well I do because I was a teen caught up in the spell. Yes, the spell. The mystical spell that had me and numerous Black people in America really believing Farrakhan was a prophet. Oh ya''ll dont remember when people were saying that in the 90's? I do..They were also saying Malchi Z York was a prophet...raise your hand if u remember that.

I bet if I ask you who is Farrakhans successor none of ya'll could tell me....But I'll tell you. Go to youtube and type in Nuri Muhammad...thats his successor. Most of ya'll never even been to a NOI mosque.

I'm gonna end it on this note. I look at Joel Osteen, TD Jakes, Creflo Dollar and Farrakhan all the same...Religious hustlers and I'm no player hater. I'm cool with a hustler getting his paper. I dont look down on religious hustlers because they atleast give a sense of hope in return. They know most people are mystified in religion so why not take advantage. :yeshrug:


In Farrakahns case...He told on himself once he started pushing Scientology on his followers. Now me, I understand how a hustler moves and I know he did that because the well had runneth dry and he needed funding for that 20 year anniversary of the Million Man March. So he made a deal behind the scenes, I promote ya'll and u pay us to promote ya'll again, I'm no player hater, get that paper. Just dont tell me you aint hustling because I know a hustler when I see one.


I remember when Farrakhan used to tell Black people about UFOs. He still telling Black folks about UFOs in this decade. U see thats how the con man works you, say some over the top shyt and if they believe it, you got them. Once u got them u can pull them in and get what u really want out of them, wether its cash or energy. Me, personally I'm sitting here wondering why those UFOs couldnt help his homie Gaddafi? What good is all that UFO talk if Black folks are still fukked up down here on Earth. You notice Tariq Nasheed nor Curtis Sc00n nor Boyce Watkins or any of these enlighten brothers ever mention UFO's? Yeah its because that old school way of scaring Black folks into believing over the top mystical shyt is dead. Ask yourself this question...is this what Black folks need to be hearing in 2017? Listen to this and make yoru own conclusion


 

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Cliffs? If this thread takes off I will read the entire op. I already know a bit about the NOI. I side with Malcolm on his split from the nation. And I believe what he said about Elijah Muhammad on national tv was true. Even though brothers in the nation deny it.
 

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Was interested in the NOI until I found out they founder was a White-Afghani man


I'm going to say something that no one really mentions concerning all of that. In all honesty what Elijah Muhammad was doing was executing Law 27 from the 48 Laws of Power

Law 27. Play on People's Need to Believe to Create a Cultlike Following.


Master Fard Muhammad was a charlatan. And what he did was he pulled Elijah Muhammad to the side and showed him the art of being a charlatan, But Elijah Muhammad was so good at it he took it further then the heights of were Fard could ever take it. Elijah muhammad , like Noble Drew Ali knew that most Black people were still mystified by the Christian religion and this is why both of them used Christian customs to lure Black people in. Mix christian customs like believing in a mystery God while at the same time preaching that there is no Mystery God. :heh: Straight genius. That way its a something new mixed with the old. Black ghettos had all types of "religious organizations" back in the early 1900's...Elijah Muhammad struck gold and his organization was just really succesful. Elijah Muhammad got rich off it and it payed off for him in the end. Elijah Muhammad was a genius...He knew Black people were still in love with the whiteman so he mixed the wording around and said that Allah made master Fard look white so that he could travel in the East and The West without much trouble. Straight genius if u ask me.
 

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As someone who was a member of the NOI and left because I got older and started to see life more realistic...I was reading that thread about the NOI recruiting and some of the responses just straight up told me ya'll know nothing about the NOI

I bet if I asked u how does one actually get into the NOI none of u could even tell me. But I'll tell you. First you have to go to C Class....Then when u are ready u go to A Class...Finally u have to write a letter to Chicago. Its a letter written by Elijah Muhammad and u have to right it exactly the way its written in the prototype they give u. If Chicago apporves, you change your last name to X and then u get watched for a period of time to where u can earn your name...most people get the name "Muhammad" This is basic knowledge.
Your description of how to "get into the NOI" is not even halfway accurate.
You are blatantly mixing truth with falsehood. If you really knew what you were talking about, would not have described it as "get into the NOI"

If your wanna say F-CK the Nation of Islam , just say it. Don't try to justify it by acting as if you have some sort of first-hand knowledge.
 

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Let me also add that tho Eliha Muhammad was a charlatan....His hustle was very neccessay. He gave Black people in America a psychological reprogramming. He told Black people that they were God and that the whiteman was the devil because they psychologically needed a different way of seeing themselves compared to how the law of the land had put it in their minds that they were 3/5ths human beings and not equal to white people.The NOI was built in the early 1930's and Black people were still being hung so saying the whiteman was teh devil was alluring to Black folks. Also The NOI was a beautiful image for other Black people to see. organized clean militant Blackmen and fully clothed respectable Blackwomen. This wa sthe type of hustle that actually gave back something.
 

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I have mixed views about the NOI. I've seen Farrakhan speak twice in person. Even went to the "Justice or Else" in DC a few years back. I was impressed about how neat and disciplined the NOI and Fruit of Islam were, but something just seems off. I can't explain it. Plus the extremely shady past that they have (Malcolm, Elijah, Khalid)...like I said, I have mixed feelings/opinions about the organization.

Plus, I'm not a Muslim, I'm an Israelite.
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Your description of how to "get into the NOI" is not even halfway accurate.


So then what part did I get wrong smarty pants?

Why dont u breakdown the process of how enterance into The NOI actually goes down since I'm so wrong.
Mind you, you aren't talking to someone who just Googles shyt...I'm speaking from first hand experience but u say otherwise so tell me where what I said wasnt accurate, Any other minor details on my end werent taken into consideration because I cant write about everything if I'm trying to get people to read what I wrote. But u said I was mixing half truths, explain yourself.
 

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When this picture was posted on the NOI Facebook page:

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...and Black men in the NOI started talking about how Kim is a Black woman because she's Armenian and Armenians were Black people who became white over time I knew all I needed to know then.

And shame on Kanye for parading his cavewoman in Black circles, and shame on Farrakhan for going against his word on interracial relationships.
 

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So then what part did I get wrong smarty pants?

Why dont u breakdown the process of how enterance into The NOI actually goes down since I'm so wrong.
Mind you, you aren't talking to someone who just Googles shyt...I'm speaking from first hand experience but u say otherwise so tell me where what I said wasnt accurate, Any other minor details on my end werent taken into consideration because I cant right everything if I'm trying to get people to read. But u said I was mixing half truths, explain yourself.
What you left out is much more than minor details.

I just want anyone that cares to read this thread to know that you are full of sh-t
 

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I have mixed views about the NOI. I've seen Farrakhan speak twice in person. Even went to the "Justice or Else" in DC a few years back. I was impressed about how neat and disciplined the NOI and Fruit of Islam were, but something just seems off. I can't explain it. Plus the extremely shady past that they have (Malcolm, Elijah, Khalid)...like I said, I have mixed feelings/opinions about the organization.

Plus, I'm not a Muslim, I'm an Israelite.
:myman:


One thing about Black people is we love a "feel good speech." If it sounds nice, we get amped. Let me say this....I give Elijah muhammad a pass for messing with them girls. Why? Because God gave King David a pass and he did way worse. You see, The NOI was filled with "humans" and not actual spiritual beings. And humans make human errors. This would include believing that killing Malcolm was ok and also why Elijah Muhammad got caught messing with them girls. But where I stand Elijah muhammad gets a pass because again, he was human. Think about it....You are a man in your mid50's and you look around and see what u created in America. A Black army on some positive shyt. You gonna naturally get gassed and start feeling yourself. Now add some beautiful young women who look at you like you are God. The temptation is too much. Elijah Muhammad messed up the hustle by thinking with his dikk. Because God is supposed to be superior over his dikk and well, Elijah Muhammad wasnt God, he was a human. And thats why I give him a pass, even tho his actions fukked up the image of the hustle. He was a human who got overwhelmed by those alluring beautiful girls and messed up the hustles image. Farrakhan learned from Elijahs mistakes and thats why he was never in any sexual scandles. Farrakhan picked up the torch of the hustle and said "OK I'm not going out like that."
 

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What's been left out, brehs?
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I'm honestly curious about topics like these.


@motion order maybe you can answer him being that when I asked what was it I left out you never answered. You said I was full of shyt but never once explained why I was full of shyt. So answer the man.
 
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