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[PS5 Pro]

@winb83

I would like your thoughts (and anyone elses) on this. Since its very relevant on what we was talking about in a different thread.

Two 7-Year-Old Boys, Two Dramatically Different News Stories (VIDEO)

Leontine G. sent in a troubling example of the framing of children’s deviance, and their own complicity in this framing. She included two links: one to a "Today" show story about a 7-year-old boy who took his family’s car on a joyride and got caught by police, and one to a CNN story about a 7-year-old boy who took his family’s car on a joyride and got caught by police. Different 7-year-olds. One white, one black.
The white boy, Preston, is interviewed with his family on the set of the "Today" show. Knowing his kid is safe, his Dad describes the event as “funny” and tells the audience that if this could happen to a “cotton candy all-American kid like Preston,” then “it could happen to anybody.”

When the host, Meredith Vieira, asks Preston why hid from the police, he says, “cause I wanted to,” and she says, “I don’t blame you actually.” With Preston not too forthcoming, his Mom steps in to say that he told her that “he just wanted to know what it felt like to drive a car.” When Vieira asks him why he fled from the police, he replies with a shrug. Vieira fills in the answer, “You wanted to get home?”

Vieira then comments on how they all then went to church. The punishment? Grounded for four days without TV or video games. Vieira asks the child, “Do you think that’s fair?” He says yes. And she continues, “Do you now understand what you did?” He nods and agrees. “And that maybe it wasn’t the smartest thing?” He nods and agrees. “You gonna get behind the wheel of a car again?” He says no. Then she teases him about trying out model toy cars.

They conclude that this incident just goes to show that “Any little kid, you never know what can happen…” and close: “I’ll be seeing you at church buddy boy!”

The video:

All in all, exactly what you’d expect from the "Today" show: a heartwarming, human interest story with a happy ending. The child is framed as a fundamentally good kid who was curious and perhaps a bit impetuous. When he has no answers for Vieira’s questions, she slots in innocent ones. And the mild punishment is seen as incidental to the more important idea that he learned something.

This story contrasts dramatically to

the CNN story about Latarian Milton, a black 7-year-old who took his family’s car on a joy ride. I’ll put the video first, but be forewarned, it’s disturbing not only because of the different frame placed on the boy's actions, but because of the boy’s embracing of the spoiled identity (apology for the commercial):

With an absolutely polar introduction of “Not your typical 7-year-old,” this story is filmed on the street. Whereas the "Today" show screened the chase footage in real time, this one is sped up, making it seem even more extreme.

The interviewer, off-camera, asks Latarian why he took the car. He replied: “I wanted to do it ’cause it’s fun, it’s fun to do bad things.” The interviewer asks further, “Did you know that you could perhaps kill somebody?” And he replies: “Yes, but I wanted to do hoodrat stuff with my friends.”

The interviewer asks him what punishment he should receive and Latarian offers a punishment very similar to Preston’s: “Just a little bit… no video games for a whole weekend.” In a longer version of this news story, now taken down, the camera focuses on a reporter who explains that the police plan to go forward with charges of grand theft against him. While he’s “too young to go into any type of juvenile facility,” he says, “police say they do want to get him into the system, so that they can get him some type of help.”

The implication here, of course, is that this child is not innocent or impetuous like Preston, he’s a pre-criminal who needs “some type of help.” The sooner they get Latarian into “the (prison?) system,” the better. No cotton candy kid this one.

Unfortunately, Latarian says all the right things to make the narrative fit. He says he likes to do “bad” things, calls himself a “hoodrat,” and seems unremorseful, even defiant, for at least part of the interview (he looks a bit sheepish in the end when he finds out his grandmother is going to have to pay for the damage he did to other cars).

One way to interpret this is to say that Latarian IS a pre-criminal. That he DOES need to get into the system because he’s clearly a bad kid. Someone inclined to believe that black people were, in fact, more prone to criminal behavior could watch these two videos and feel confirmed in their view.

But there is good evidence that people, beginning as children, internalize the stereotypes that others have of them. As Ann Ferguson shows in her book, Bad Boys: Public Schools in the Making of Black Masculinity, black children, especially boys, are stereotyped as pre-criminals; not adorably naughty, like white boys, but dangerously bad from the beginning. And studies with children have shown that they often internalize this idea, as in the famous doll experiment in which both black and white children were more likely than not to identify the black doll as bad (see this similar demonstration of white preference on CNN and a discussion of the original doll experiment at ABC). So I think this terribly sad story of Latarian is showing us how children learn to think of themselves as deviant and bad from the society around them. Latarian, remember, is 7, just like Preston. They’re both children, but they are being treated very differently, as these programs illustrate, and it is already starting to sink in.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/...eotypes_n_3624740.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

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[Bud Bundy]

 

[Kritic]

irresponsible script..

 

[AV Dicey]

irresponsible script..

Aaron Mcgruder was str8 c00ning on that show. Lol at Chappelle quiting over his tame antics while while Aaron is placed on a pedestal. Where is the equivalence to "this racism is killing me inside" on the Boondocks?...'smoke wif cigarettes' and 'hoodrat stuff' should have become a cultural mainstay in murica.

 

[Kritic]

Aaron Mcgruder was str8 c00ning on that show. Lol at Chappelle quiting over his tame antics while while Aaron is placed on a pedestal. Where is the equivalence to "this racism is killing me inside" on the Boondocks?...'smoke wif cigarettes' and 'hoodrat stuff' should have become a cultural mainstay in murica.

so long as he feeds us with poison he'll get a very nice check. they've found ways to hire blacks to feed us with bullsh1t. the assault to keep the black community down and stupid is stronger than ever.


i've never watched this show other than a few youtubes here and there. i don't watch tv cause it's all junk that conditions the public to do stupid things.

 

[PS5 Pro]

Aaron Mcgruder was str8 c00ning on that show. Lol at Chappelle quiting over his tame antics while while Aaron is placed on a pedestal. Where is the equivalence to "this racism is killing me inside" on the Boondocks?...'smoke wif cigarettes' and 'hoodrat stuff' should have become a cultural mainstay in murica.

Uncle Ruckus Movie: Thank God Aaron McGruder's Campaign Failed

so long as he feeds us with poison he'll get a very nice check. they've found ways to hire blacks to feed us with bullsh1t. the assault to keep the black community down and stupid is stronger than ever.


i've never watched this show other than a few youtubes here and there. i don't watch tv cause it's all junk that conditions the public to do stupid things.

Stronger than ever possibly, but I'd rather say it NEVER STOPPED. Like a roller coaster we have our ups and downs in that battle. During one point in the 90's and thanks to spike lee and others we had a nice little run. But "they" had to regroup. They attacked us from the TV's (taking over BET) they took over our radio waves, music is really the most important teacher. Its very impressionable so the kids today don't respect themselves or others. The only positive outlet there is for African Americans is what? Who they role models? My daughters used to be on Beyonce. Once she got with Jigga? All her songs is basically about that nikka. No more substance. I can't name a single one right his second...

 

[Kritic]

Uncle Ruckus Movie: Thank God Aaron McGruder's Campaign Failed

damn.. uncle ruckus movie now?

 

[GoldenGlove]

so long as he feeds us with poison he'll get a very nice check. they've found ways to hire blacks to feed us with bullsh1t. the assault to keep the black community down and stupid is stronger than ever.


i've never watched this show other than a few youtubes here and there. i don't watch tv cause it's all junk that conditions the public to do stupid things.

You should watch it, it's piff.

 

[Robbie3000]

Aaron Mcgruder was str8 c00ning on that show. Lol at Chappelle quiting over his tame antics while while Aaron is placed on a pedestal. Where is the equivalence to "this racism is killing me inside" on the Boondocks?...'smoke wif cigarettes' and 'hoodrat stuff' should have become a cultural mainstay in murica.

He was taking a critical look at mainstream black culture on that show. Some of it stung, but it was based on reality.

 

[Kritic]

You should watch it, it's piff.

that's what you think cause you've been conditioned to think "it's just a show". i bet you thought uncle ruckus movie was "just a movie" too.

 

[GoldenGlove]

that's what you think cause you've been conditioned to think "it's just a show". i bet you thought uncle ruckus movie was "just a movie" too.

It's a satire that's entertaining. How have I been conditioned to think it's just a show?

 

[Regular_P]

The turn this thread took.

 

[Slystallion]

is it me or do people start falling asleep trying to coherently piece together the long ass walls of texts that courtdog uses

I like the kid but my eyes hurt reading his stuff sometimes....kind of like reading an Art Barr post...they both must have some sort of mental incapacity

and this thread is not an example of it just a random thought i had about Courtdog

 

[PS5 Pro]

He was taking a critical look at mainstream black culture on that show. Some of it stung, but it was based on reality.

That sounds good, but that is the "line" someone said that planted that seed in your head bruh. I've heard that said, but who said that? How do you come to that conclusion? You know what stung? The c00ning. That link Bud Bundy posted, how is that a critical look at mainstream black culture? All he did was capitalize off an unfortunate situation. It didn't teach anything. If anything, it would make white people think we find shyt like that amusing. There was no message there bruh, its all for c00nery

It's a satire that's entertaining. How have I been conditioned to think it's just a show?

They been "conditioning you" since before you was born bruh
Since the 1940's they was aware... Kenneth and Mamie Clark - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
And here is the same test more recently which I'm sure you at least heard of...

But you know, its just satire thats ENTERTAINING he says (you my nikka bunz, you my nikka)

is it me or do people start falling asleep trying to coherently piece together the long ass walls of texts that courtdog uses

I like the kid but my eyes hurt reading his stuff sometimes....kind of like reading an Art Barr post...they both must have some sort of mental incapacity

and this thread is not an example of it just a random thought i had about Courtdog

Thats funny, because all I did was copy n paste a news story. I wrote 1 line in the OG post. Now why you here trying to drum up hate?
Like Joe Budden would say, I'll pray for you...

 

[GoldenGlove]

^^^