No new govt. regulations ever, Trump can delete old regs at will

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H.R.5 - 115th Congress (2017-2018): Regulatory Accountability Act of 2017










:manny:Feel free to bump this thread and tell me I was worrying about nothing if this doesn't pass the senate or gets vetoed by Trump for some silly reason.

I knew there was something else going on. Whenever Trump lies blatantly about something, it's to create a media smokescreen.

I believe the first time we realized what he was doing was when he settled that 25million lawsuit over Trump University.
 

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I knew there was something else going on. Whenever Trump lies blatantly about something, it's to create a media smokescreen.

I believe the first time we realized what he was doing was when he settled that 25million lawsuit over Trump University.
It's also possible that Trump is always involved in some fukkery while also always saying stupid bullshyt.

Mostly I'm just laughing at how completely the Democrats have lost control of the government. These a$$holes were talking about turning Texas blue this election.:mjlol:Now the Republicans are capable of doing every single insane thing the Dems thought they'd be able to indefinitely prevent them from doing.

They thought they won the culture war.:mjlol:
 

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In 1936, the number of pages in the Federal Register was about 2,600. Today, the Federal Register is over 80,000 pages long.
:picard:Good lord. A human couldn't begin to read such a voluminous document. If only there were some kind of twenty-first century technology, :patrice:some sort of... computer...:mjgrin: which could quickly and easily access any relevant part of a large file of documents.:comeon:
 

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:picard:Good lord. A human couldn't begin to read such a voluminous document. If only there were some kind of twenty-first century technology, :patrice:some sort of... computer...which could quickly and easily access any relevant part of a large file of documents.
:mjgrin: thats why i say liberals never see the forest for the trees...


is the problem really searching though the longest book ever written in the history of the mankind ......or the fact that its full of crap like this













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Hate to post Huffpo (I posted a republican alternative link - see Jeff Duncan's link below), but is this the law you're talking about?

The Most Dangerous Bill You've Never Heard Of Just Passed The House | The Huffington Post

Rep. Duncan applauds passage of ‘groundbreaking’ REINS Act | Congressman Jeff Duncan

The bill, called the REINS Act, requires that any future major regulation adopted by an Executive Agency — say a new toxic chemical standard required by the recently enacted Chemical Safety Act, or a new consumer protection rule about some innovative but untested kind of food additive — must be approved by a specific resolution in each House of Congress within 70 days to take effect.

To give a sense of the scale of this road-block, in 2015 there were 43 such major federal regulations passed to protect the public; among them were food safety regulations, the Clean Power Plan regulating pollution from electrical generating facilities, net neutrality rules protecting the internet from monopoly, restrictions on predatory lending and energy efficiency standards for appliances.

If the REINS Act had been in effect, it’s unlikely that the Tea Party-dominated Republican caucus in the House would have approved of any of these rules. Future standard setting under the entire body of legislation enacted over the past 40 years to protect the public, from the Clean Air Act to the Dodd Frank financial sector reforms, would be frozen. Over time, as new health, safety, consumer and labor protection issues arise, all of these laws will effectively have been repealed, with no public debate and no accountability. It will also be impossible to restore them as long as the REINS Act is in effect, because by requiring Congress to approve every regulation, it makes it impossible to pass technically complex and scientifically valid rules on any topic of controversy.

As one example, the REINS Act would totally neuter the new Chemical Safety Act, just passed by the Republican Congress last year. The Act requires EPA to review and set standards for 10 widely abused chemicals in the next six months alone. The Act passed only because in exchange, states gave up much of their power to protect their citizens from toxic chemicals; without that incentive, the Tea Party will certainly act to prevent EPA from restricting the use of these chemicals. But the states only agreed to give up in exchange for the promise that EPA would act. But the REINS act neuters this promise. Even if the House Republican caucus was willing in theory to consider such rules, there is simply no way Congress could add 10-40 new pieces of legislation to its work load in the chemical safety area alone. In fact, the House also just passed legislation to allow it to REPEAL all of President Obama’s regulatory acts in the last eight months of his term in office with ONE vote. Why? Because House members said there was not time for individual votes on each rule — exactly the requirement they just established for new rules.

Worse, Congress totally lacks the technical competence to review these kinds of complex rules. Do we really want members of Congress deciding whether a chemical can safely be used in food packaging? Or the proper procedures for approving new drugs as safe and effective? Or setting the allowable safety standard for heavy metals in drinking water?

The vote was 237-187. All Republicans voted for it; only two Democrats, Colin Peterson of Minnesota and Henry Cuellar of Texas, joined them. A Google search five days after the bill passed the House revealed no mention in major media except one Reuters story with limited pick-up and a Washington Post op-ed by one of its major supporters. Even on-line virtually all of the commentary was from the backers of the REINS Act; the only significant alerts of the danger came from the Blue Green Alliance and DeSmogBlog.
 

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It's also possible that Trump is always involved in some fukkery while also always saying stupid bullshyt.

Mostly I'm just laughing at how completely the Democrats have lost control of the government. These a$$holes were talking about turning Texas blue this election.:mjlol:Now the Republicans are capable of doing every single insane thing the Dems thought they'd be able to indefinitely prevent them from doing.

They thought they won the culture war.:mjlol:
:smh:
 
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