New York Times: New Harvard study shows police kill white and black suspects at the exact same rates

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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/u...e-use-of-force-but-not-in-shootings.html?_r=0


Surprising New Evidence Shows Bias in Police Use of Force but Not in Shootings

By QUOCTRUNG BUI and AMANDA COX JULY 11, 2016


A new study confirms that black men and women are treated differently in the hands of law enforcement. They are more likely to be touched, handcuffed, pushed to the ground or pepper-sprayed by a police officer, even after accounting for how, where and when they encounter the police.

But when it comes to the most lethal form of force — police shootings — the study finds no racial bias.

“It is the most surprising result of my career,” said Roland G. Fryer Jr., the author of the study and a professor of economics at Harvard. The study examined more than 1,000 shootings in 10 major police departments, in Texas, Florida and California.

The result contradicts the mental image of police shootings that many Americans hold in the wake of the killings (some captured on video) of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo.; Laquan McDonald in Chicago; Tamir Rice in Cleveland; Walter Scott in South Carolina; Samuel DuBose in Cincinnati; Alton Sterling in Baton Rouge, La.; and Philando Castile in Minnesota.

The study did not say whether the most egregious examples — the kind of killings at the heart of the nation’s debate on police shootings — are free of racial bias. Instead, it examined a much larger pool of shootings, including nonfatal ones.

The counterintuitive results provoked debate after the study was posted on Monday, mostly about the volume of police encounters and the scope of the data. Mr. Fryer emphasizes that the work is not the definitive analysis of police shootings, and that more data would be needed to understand the country as a whole. This work focused only on what happens once the police have stopped civilians, not on the risk of being stopped at all. Other research has shown that blacks are more likely to be stopped by the police.

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Roland G. Fryer Jr., a professor of economics at Harvard. Credit Erik Jacobs for The New York Times

Mr. Fryer, the youngest African-American to receive tenure at Harvard and the first one to receive a John Bates Clark medal, a prize given to the most promising American economist under 40, said his anger after the deaths of Michael Brown and Freddie Gray and others drove him to study the issue. “You know, protesting is not my thing,” he said. “But data is my thing. So I decided that I was going to collect a bunch of data and try to understand what really is going on when it comes to racial differences in police use of force.”

He and student researchers spent about 3,000 hours assembling detailed data from police reports in Houston; Austin, Tex.; Dallas; Los Angeles; Orlando, Fla.; Jacksonville, Fla.; and four other counties in Florida.

They examined 1,332 shootings between 2000 and 2015, coding police narratives to answer questions such as: How old was the suspect? How many police officers were at the scene? Were they mostly white? Was the officer at the scene for a robbery, violent activity, a traffic stop or something else? Was it nighttime? Did the officer shoot after being attacked or before a possible attack? One goal was to figure out whether police officers were quicker to fire at black suspects.

In shootings in these 10 cities involving officers, officers were more likely to fire their weapons without having first been attacked when the suspects were white. Black and white civilians involved in police shootings were equally likely to have been carrying a weapon. Both of these results undercut the idea that the police wield lethal force with racial bias.

But to look at cases where police shootings took place is to see only part of the picture. What about situations in which an officer might be expected to fire, but doesn’t?

To answer this question, Mr. Fryer focused on one city, Houston. The Police Department there allowed the researchers to look at reports not only for shootings but also for arrests when lethal force might have been justified. Mr. Fryer defined this group to include encounters with suspects the police subsequently charged with serious offenses like attempting to murder an officer, or evading or resisting arrest. He also considered suspects shocked with Tasers.

Mr. Fryer found that in such situations, officers in Houston were about 20 percent less likely to shoot suspects if the suspects were black. This estimate was not very precise, and firmer conclusions would require more data. But in a variety of models that controlled for different factors and used different definitions of tense situations, Mr. Fryer found that blacks were either less likely to be shot or there was no difference between blacks and whites.

The study, a National Bureau of Economic Research working paper, relied on reports filled out by police officers and on police departments willing to share those reports. Recent videos of police shootings have led many to question the reliability of such accounts. But the results were largely the same whether or not Mr. Fryer used information from narratives provided by officers.

And he found that the rise of mobile video did not substantially change the results in Houston. Racial gaps were about the same in years when iPhones and Facebook were prevalent and in years when they weren’t.

Such results may not be true in every city. The cities Mr. Fryer used to examine officer-involved shootings make up only about 4 percent of the nation’s population, and serve more black citizens than average.

Moreover, the results do not mean that the general public’s perception of racism in policing is misguided. Lethal uses of force are exceedingly rare. There were 1.6 million arrests in Houston in the years Mr. Fryer studied. Officers fired their weapons 507 times. What is far more common are nonlethal uses of force.

And in less extreme uses of force, Mr. Fryer found ample racial differences, which is in accord with the public’s perception and other studies.

In New York City, blacks stopped by the police were about 17 percent more likely to experience use of force, according to stop-and-frisk records kept between 2003 and 2013. (In the later year, a judge ruled that the tactic as employed then was unconstitutional.)

That gap, adjusted for suspect behavior and other factors, was surprisingly consistent across various levels of force. Black suspects were 18 percent more likely to be pushed up against a wall, 16 percent more likely to be handcuffed without being arrested and 18 percent more likely to be pushed to the ground.

Even when the police said that civilians were compliant, blacks experienced more force.

Mr. Fryer also explored racial differences in force from the viewpoint of civilians, using data from a nationally representative survey conducted by the federal government. Here, he found racial gaps in force that were larger than those he found in the data reported from the officers’ perspective. But these gaps were also consistent across many different types of force.

This discovery is not new to the black community. It’s at root of the “talk” that many black parents give to their sons and daughters about how to approach interactions with the police.

As an economist, Mr. Fryer wonders if the difference between lethal force — where he did not find racial disparities — and nonlethal force — where he did — might be related to costs. Officers face great costs, legal and psychological, when they unnecessarily fire their weapons. But excessive use of lesser force is rarely tracked or punished. “No officer has ever told me that putting their hands on inner-city youth is a life-changing event,” he said, contrasting the consequences of shootings and lesser uses of force.

For Mr. Fryer, who has spent much of his career studying ways society can close the racial achievement gap, the failure to punish excessive everyday force is an important contributor to young black disillusionment.

“Who the hell wants to have a police officer put their hand on them or yell and scream at them? It’s an awful experience,” he said. “I’ve had it multiple, multiple times. Every black man I know has had this experience. Every one of them. It is hard to believe that the world is your oyster if the police can rough you up without punishment. And when I talked to minority youth, almost every single one of them mentions lower level uses of force as the reason why they believe the world is corrupt.”
 

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The study examined more than 1,000 shootings in 10 major police departments, in Texas, Florida and California.

Black people are being messed with & killed all over the country and this study is looking at shootings from just 3 different states.

bullshyt interpretation & narrative.
 

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Yeah because Tamir Rice was a suspect. Another article that has nothing to do with execution police carry on black people who don't even criminal records or are suspects to crime.

Also the study is bullshyt

Technically yes..he was menacing people with a realistic looking prop gun...which IS a crime..his death was a horrible thing but lets be completely honest here
 

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Story seems legit IMO...but then again i suspected as much given the police make like 14,000,000 arrests every year and the number of unarmed suspects killed is usually under 200 in total

so the odds of a deadly encounter with the police even filtering the data for a black male specifically are astronomically low...but that doesnt fit the story the liberals are pushing

Theyre like the kid doing a puzzle and when a piece doesnt fit they cut it instead of starting over
 

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That VOX piece you posted failed on the very first assumption
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You see it assumes because Black people are 13% of the population they encounter the police 13% of the time..which is easily demonstrated to be false
you can see this in arrests
TOTAL 8,730,665 WHITE=6,056,687 BLACK= 2,427,683 Table 43

so if you factor in that significantly higher number of contacts the study in the OP is actually proven right.
 
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Technically yes..he was menacing people with a realistic looking prop gun...which IS a crime..his death was a horrible thing but lets be completely honest here

What people, he was playing in the park by himself. The gun had a orange tip on it.

A 12 year old is menacing, did you ever watch the video, or nevermind you're just a troll lets be completely honest.

Also show me a video of what happened in Baton Rouge happening to a white man.

You're a coward troll leave your mother's basement
 

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That VOX piece you posted failed on the very first assumption


You see it assumes because Black people are 13% of the population they encounter the police 13% of the time...
Did you even read the article, or just quote mine for something you could [try to] mislead (lie) with? That graph is only showing how blacks are targeted disproportionately. Not what you're suggesting. It's frustrating trying to discuss with dishonest folks. Why are you even here? All I see you do is push white supremacist narrative and it's tiring.
 

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What people, he was playing in the park by himself. The gun had a orange tip on it.

A 12 year old is menacing, did you ever watch the video, or nevermind you're just a troll lets be completely honest.

Also show me a video of what happened in Baton Rouge happening to a white man.

You're a coward troll leave your mother's basement


He didnt have the type with the orange tip this is fact
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I guess that makes you the troll dumbass
 
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He didnt have the type with the orange tip this is fact
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I guess that makes you the troll dumbass


Where's the gun in the video? I don't see that gun in the picture anywhere in the video.

You said he was terrorizing people, there's nobody around he's just standing there.

You're justifying shooting a child who did absolutely nothing.

You could be indian like that fakkit napolean

that proves nothing, either way you are a piece of shyt or a gutless c00n

nobody in their right mind could justify that shyt and you just uttered that dumb ass shyt out your mouth.

Even the white people in the comments section are disgusted, fukk and your fakkit ass finger

matter of fact PM your address I don't care if I gotta catch a flight I will pistol whip and put that shyt on world star nikka
 
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