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Nas- Untitled- Discussion Thread.
I'm going to begin this by saying that I feel that Nas's Untitled album is a classic in the terms of a true HipHop genre defining piece of work. When I say this I mean that it captures and illustrates various examples of African American experience in various methods of expression. I feel that with this album Nas not only was able to speak to his own circumstances, but that of us as a race of diverse individuals. Below is what I feel is a thorough track by track breakdown of what I feel Nas was trying to say on each song, and, when looked at cohesively, encapsulates satisfactorily the African American Pshyche of the past, present, and near future....

1). Queens Get The Money- If one were to look at Untitled as I do, as a musical novel of sorts, Then this piece would serve as our forward. Here Nas is introducing himself as our author and laying out both his credences before us as well as defending himself from those other authors or editors (50 Cent, Al Sharpton, etc.) who would seek to discredit him.
"*****s is still hatin/ talkin that Nas done fell off with rhymin/ he'd rather floss with diamonds/ they pray please God let him spit that Uzi in the army lining/ that shorty doo wop/ rolling ooo woops in the park reclining/"
In this passage Nas is referencing his classic debut album Illmatic. An album that has haunted him from the moment of it's release as being that album that can never be topped or outdone. Much like J.D. Salinger felt the pressures of people constantly comparing his work to his immortal novel "Catcher In The Rye", Nas himself has fought this battle time again at every album release. Well the buck stops here Nas seems to be saying. Illmatic is what it is, and there is now a new book written. Value it as is.

2). You Can't Stop Us Now- Here is chapter one, and like any introductory work that traces a history of any specific topic, Nas chooses to compare and contrast the past. The topic is the history of African Americans "from Willie Lynch to Willie Hutch/ right on we superfly/" and also the dual meaning, implications, and definitions of the word ******. As starting from the beginning, Nas mainly focuses on the word in it's original negative aspects. " Betsy Ross sold the first American flag/ bet she had a ****** with her to help her old ass" followed by The Lost Poets proclamation of James Baldwin's quote, "You can Only be destroyed by BELIEVING that you really are what the WHITE WORLD considers...a ******". This quotation used by Nas to bridge the first and second verse is poignant for a reason. It drives home the fact that what is commonly considered "******ish behavior" by former white slave masters is then turned into a positive by African Americans. "Gave a blood time cause he fought with his canine". This inhumane "******ish" behavior, but dog and chicken fighting have been staples of African American entertainment since slavery. "David Star on the chain of Sammy Davis/ he helped pave the way for southern shakers and them Harlem Shakers/Now we getting our papers/ They try to censor the words to stop our money coming but you cant escape us/ haters/" The "sing, fiddle, and dance" routine harkens back to talented slaves playing entertaning their masters through song and dance. This was "******ish" behavior, which was flipped by those like Sammy Davis Jr. Into money making commodities that paved the way for rock and roll, blues, and Hiphop. In essence for millions of African Americans to be able to innovate and make money. What Whites once saw as the demeaning behavior of labor subhumans, ww have transformed into a billion dollar industry.

3). Breathe- Here Nas skips a couple hundred years and speaks through the eyes of today's ghetto trapped, poverty stricken, youth. In their mind' eye "In America you'll NEVER BE FREE". This is attributed in the likes of a Sean Bell, who instead of being treated as a human being, was coldly and unlawfully taken from the world for no other reason than being a black man the wrong place at the wrong time. The frustration, anger, paranoia, and pressure felt by such commonplace injustice bubbles over into a "Middle Fingers up **** THE POLICE!" attitude and way of thinking. All ready stuck in the inpovershed purgatory known as "Every Ghetto, USA"; where jobs are hard to come by, violence, corruption, and drug use run rampant. And even law enforcement is against you whether you are guilty or not, the question begged to be asked is " Can't a ***** just BREATHE"???

4). We Make The World Go Around- This song is looked at as a blunder. A party song on an otherwise fiercely unrelenting, politically incorrect, study on African American race relations? Where some choose to see merely an attempt at "commercialization" on Nas and Def Jam's part I choose to listen to as another view on African American lifestyle. Hip Hop has predominately been attacked by the media for glorification of material possession. The "Clothes, bank rolls, and hoes" mentality of mainstream rap reaches crescendos of unparraleld buffoonery at times yes, However as Nas has pointed out and expressed in the past two songs (chapters) we've been from "Pyramids to Cotton Fields/ Forgotten men who did get killed/". We've been "fresh out of city housing/ ain't have to many options/ Pennies on a pension or penitionary bounding"/ and after getting through all of the bull**** sometimes it does feel good to kick back and celebrate that us as a people and race Do IN FACT make the world go around...

5). Hero- If there is another song besides Queens Get The Money that speaks to Nas expressing himself as a black man trying to get his message across, it is of course this one. Here Nas breaks down the challenges of attempting to do something that against the status quo. Nas knew going in that this album was not going to be a platinum selling, Grammy winning, media darling. There was furor over the album title, controversy over the themes, and dispute on what constitutes social commentary or thinly disguised gimmick. Through it all Nas stands his ground. From the "lawyers who only see billboard charts as winning/ forgetting, Nas the only true rebel from the beginning/" to "Newsweek articles/ who startled big wigs/ they said Nas why is you trying it"/ Wells he's doing it because as an artist it's what he SUPPOSE TO DO. As a black man, living with racial injustic and the supposed hypocrisy of the N-word usage by predominately black culture is something he has lived with all of his life. Who better to tell it than him? It is part of his legacy as an African American, part of his soul. "Still in musical prison, in jail for the flow/ Trying telling Bob Dillon, Bruce, or Billy Joel they can't sing what's in they SOUL"/ and to put what's in his soul out there to the masses, he's willing to sacrifice the album's title. "So Untitled it is, I never changed NOTHIN/ but people remember this if Nas can't say it/ Think of all these talented kids with new ideas/ bein told what they can and can't spit/". This about HIS RIGHT to freedom of speech and expression as black man and the ARTIST right to creative thinking and musical control. Nas is willing to take the bullet on this one, to set an example. And for that, Nas is a Hero.

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Part 2.

6). America- "The Home Of the Free, the Land Of The Brave". If ever there were a more contradictory and hypocritical statement about this nation as it pertains to African Americans and minorities in general, it DOES NOT EXIST in printed form. Here Nas fiercely and ferociously destroys the whimsical fantasy that is the "Greatest Nation In The World". " It's like waking up from a bad dream. Just to figure out, you weren't dreaming in the first place" Nas somberly speaks before launching into his tirade. "The hypocrisy is all I can see/ White cop acquitted for murder/black cop copped a plea/ that type of **** makes you stop and think/ we in chronic need of a second look through the law book/ and the whole race dichotomy/" In a time period where we are supposedly fully integrated into a more racially unified harmony, there always exists examples of the never ending "separate-and-not-so-equal" treatment when it comes to minorities in the court of law. Furthermore Nas laments the fact that due to improper emphasis on material possession and fame over quality education we are faced with a world where there are "too many rappers, athletes and actors/ but not enough *****s in NASA/ who give you the latest dances/trends and fashions/but when it come to residuals they look right past us/" woven into the fabric/ they can't stand us/ even white tees, blue jeans, and red bandanas". This is once again an example of being defeated by what it is the WHITE WORLD considers appropriate Negro behavior. However, Nas flips this potrayal and offers a stark, honest, and brutal history lesson on the type of "bravey" that the founding fathers exhibited in the early days of the land of the "free".
"Assasinations/ Diplomatic Relations/KILLED INDIGINEOUS PEOPLE, build a new nation/Involuntary labor took a knife split a woman naval/Took her premature baby let her man see you RAPE HER/" If I could travel to the 1700's/ I'd push a wheel barrow full a dynamite through your covenant/ Love to sit on the senate and tell the whole government y'all don't treat women fair/She read about herself in the Bible believing she the reason sin is here/ you played her with an apron like bring me my dinner dear/ she the ****** hear/ Ain't we in a free world?/ Death penalty in Texas kill young boys and girls/ BARBARITY"

7). Sly Fox- "Sly Fox/ The Cyclops/ We locked in the idiot box/ the video slots/ broadcast the Waco Davidian plots". So begins Nas assault on the popular mainstream media. When Bill O Reilly called for Nas's banishment from the Virginia Tech benefit concert, he cited several popular Nas songs which reference gun violence; including Shoot Em Up and Got Urself A Gun. What he failed to divulge was the more mature, spiritual, positive, and educational stance that the Nas of 2007 had taken versus the street oriented Nas of 94-99. Also while referencing several of Nas violent lyrics, no mention or light was given to Nas more positive oriented songs. No lyrics were shown from I Can, One Mic, Bridging the Gap, Can't Forget About You, If I ruled the World, ect. One could reasonably come to the conclusion from These segments that the rapper Nas was another in a long line of African Americans who idealized guns, violence, and " hood life" and that the poor, impressionable minds of the youth might well be forever damaged beyond repair from this villain. The mainstream media and Entertainment industries fuse into alarmingly viscious caricaturizations and stereotypes when it deems fit. From the Sadistic, savage, animalistic portrayals of African American men in "The Birth Of A Nation" to today's "The suspect is believed to be a black male between the ages of alive and dead" news reporting. African Americans have been often put into a position where an unbiased, unracist view of thoughts and experience are all but virtually impossible to imagine. THAT is the work of one sly fox....

8). Testify- Here Nas exemplifies once again the extremes of anguish, sorrow and despair that living and existing through these types of harsh realities can bring upon minorities. America, the seemingly great nation has for more than 400 years subjugated, mistreated, and all but conquered an entire race of
human beings because the color of their skins. The Media purposefully misinterprets the negative aspects of your cultural behavior to promote untried and ignorance. What do you do? Well as Nas put it "I just BURNT my American Flag/ and sent three Nazi's off to hell and I'm sad/ UH I'm loading teffs in my mag/ to send these redneck biggots some death in a bag/ choke him out with his confederate flag/ I know these devils are mad/" Here Nas writes from the perspective of the angry revolutionary. The man who one day looks at the ills surrounding him and is ready and prepared to react violently to his situation. Nas sees his fans who come to the shows shouting "ho and ****" but he fails to see these fans when it matters. When the **** goes down, he already predicted way back when that "when we start the revolution all they'll probably do is squeal". NOW he's addressing them straight forward "**** y'all little little hoe *****es/ I don't need y'all I'll go gold with it./" This song is meant to epitomize "Black Rage" the type of simmering helplessness that led to the Black Panther movement.

Part 3. Coming soon....
 

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whats crazy is this is probably my 2nd least favourite nas album but i still like it.
 
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ahhhhh Nas's Def Jam era... How I loathe and are also intrigued by this focal point in his career.

Untitled has that aura like it was scaled back from its monumental impact it was supposed/hyped up to have. Songs such as the following one should have never been left off the album:



I think this will be an album that will be appreciated in hindsight.

[The song with Chris Brown was trash!]
 
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Untitled was most definitely important as a piece that commented on the social and political aspects of the African American lifestyle and viewpoint of the 21st century. Nas was able to, in my opinion, expertly put across his opinions on racism, stereotypes, political and media bias, etc all wrapped around the metaphor of the N word and how it equates to Black history both past AND present. Remember, when Nas first announced the title the hailstorm it created? The N has been used for more than 200 years as a term to degrade and dehumanize African Americans. A majority of today's African American youth flipped the term as a means of edearmemt and yet, the media chose to focus on this one BLACK rapper and the NEGATIVE aspects of him using it as album title. Before even a note of lyrics or music hit the street, people were already prejudging what he was going to say. It was a gimmick, a cry for attention, a misguided statement.

Nas proved the majority of his argument right before the album was even released. "As James Baldwin says, you can only be destroyed by BELIEVING that you really are what the WHITE WORLD considers a ******." The media had it all figured out didn't they? This ignorant BLACK ghetto rapper
, ninth grade dropout from a housing projects couldn't POSSIBLY have anything meaningful or inciteful to say about race relations, the plight of African American self image, or the word itself. This ****** couldn't possibly release anything that could demonstrate forward thinking or positive discussion on an issue that has existed since the day the ships brought the first slaves right?

Well he proved them wrong. Nas not only had something to say, he spoke in a manner which touched on the past, present, and future of African Americans in a poignant and intelligent manner, and from MULTIPLE perspectives of the African American identity.

THAT is why this album is important. THAT is why no album of 2008 was better than Untitled. It was a definitve statement that a black rapper COULD have the mental dexterity to pull off a project with such an immense and still mainstream tan topic. It proved that rappers SHOULD speak their minds on issues of and politics. Maybe most importantly for Hiphop as a culture, it showed that rappers in the mainstream public eye WOULD go against the status quo of "*****es, Jewlerly, Cars, Bankrolls, and coke selling" Nas had the courage, in a summer dominated by Lollipop, to get his inner public enemy on.
 
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Still surprised at how much nikkas slept on "Louis Farrakan" shyt was so dope to me

"No revolutionary gets old or so I'm told
Your left full of bullet holes when you tell the people go free
Oh, it's a matter of days before they try to take me"
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Mods please sticky this powerful thread :ohlawd:

This was an album that got better with time. I couldnt fully appreciate when it first dropped.

Illmatic
Lost Tapes
IWW
Untitled

The mixtape was :ahh:
 

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very dope album, decades from now it will stand out as one of the best that defined the time period
 
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This universal apartheid
I'm hog-tied, the corporate side
Blocking y'all from going to stores and buying it
First L.A. and Doug Morris was riding wit it
But Newsweek article startled big wigs
They said, Nas, why is he trying it?
My lawyers only see the Billboard charts as winning
Forgetting - Nas the only true rebel since the beginning
Still in musical prison, in jail for the flow
Try telling Bob Dylan, Bruce, or Billy Joel
They can't sing what's in their soul
So untitled it is
I never change nothin'
But people remember this
If Nas can't say it, think about these talented kids
With new ideas being told what they can and can't spit


People were quick to dismiss this song as "filler" or Nas attempt at a "crossover" record when thre in plain sight he was giving you a chilling look at label poiltics and the not to distant future.

Quote From Big Boi on the delays of the release of "Sir Luscious Left Foot"

"I was stuck in a space where I'm making this music that Jive did not understand. They were telling me my album was a piece of art. They told my manager they didn't know how to market and promote that. They were talking about just doing an online limited release of my record,” he said. Later, he says Jive specifically asked for a song similar to Lil Wayne's "Lollipop," which Big Boi was surprised by. “That kind of shook me up," he noted.

Get The Latest Hip Hop News, Rap News & Hip Hop Album Sales | HipHop DX

Quote from Chamillionaire

"There's still arguments with the record label, they be telling you how to do things (sic), telling you it needs to be pop and all this stuff. I just want things to be fresh and when I'm confident about it, (I will) put it out.

http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf...-delay_1144978

Lupe Fiasco Quotes

“I had to do ‘Show Goes On,’ that was like the big chip on the table. I had to do it and it had to be the first single if the record was going to come out. And then there’s ‘Never Forget You’ [featuring John Legend]—which is another record I had nothing to do with—which became another bargaining chip, like, ‘Yo, after ‘Show Goes On’ there’s going to be this other record that you had nothing to do with.

Music: Hip-Hop, Rock, Pop, Electro, R&B, and Music News | Complex

Drake Quotes

"Thank Me Later was a rushed album, I didn't get to take the time that I wanted to on that record, I rushed a lot of the songs and sonically, I didn't get to sit with the record, it was like once it was done, it was like its done,"

http://allhiphop.com/stories/news/ar.../22579205.aspx

Dead Prez Quotes

Peep the interview below as M1 describes how their label home Sony, still has no idea how to market their music and their link to Jay-Z.

http://www.thisis50.com/profiles/blo...ource=activity


The Roots Quotes

In an effort to please Def Jam executives with a radio single, drummer Ahmir “?uestlove” Thompson says the group presented the pop-leaning “Birthday Girl” featuring Fall Out Boy’s Patrick Stump. Label staffers praised the track, but fans panned it, and the tune was stripped from the North American version of their new album, “Rising Down.”

http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/s...5-0023ce8b349f

Saigon on Greatest Story Never Told Delays

The New York rhyme spitter has a tale that's as in-depth as his poetics on wax. He was one of the Big Apple's finest upstarts in years and inked a deal with Atlantic Records. He later raged against the machine, however, with his blistering "Trans-Atlantic Slave Deal" when he felt he was being pushed to deliver pop hits and later parted ways with the label.

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