Nas has top 3 best production in hip hop ever.

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Time to dispel a popular myth.

If you add up Nas's studio releases plus (and this is extremely important) his rare/unreleased material, Nas has rapped on more dope beats than any other rapper in hip hop history. Give or take. Jay-Z's in that convo, too.

I was listening to "Star Wars" in the whip the other day :whew:



The reason why we hate on Nas's beat selection is that he bats 50% or below on fire beat selection. Which is inexcusable considering how incredible of a rapper he is.

But take 40% over 200 tracks (random number. The point is that Nas has a lot of tracks), that's still A LOT more than most people who have ever rapped.
 

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Na, Jay's production is far better than Nas' and I'm a Nas stan.




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Gotta keep it real.

I disagree. Their production is totally different for the most part, except when they've worked with the same producers. That's the only instance where your comment applies. Nas got way better Premo beats than Jay-Z did, for instance. Jay-Z got way better Timbaland, Neptunes, Swizz beats though.

either way, you got that whitney?
 

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I think Nas has rapped over some of the best beats ever and has some of the best produced albums (Illmatic, It Was Written, Lost Tapes)...

Nastradamus is the only Nas album that has god awful production mostly from start to finish...

I don't know why people act like Jay's beats are so much better. All three volume albums had a handful of poor beats and shyt that sounds dated and awful today for example. The man rhymed over Ghetto Techno.
 

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illmatic, Lost tapes and It was written is a solid case ...

but I haven't listened to all of Scarfaces albums so I can't say for sure

Think Outkast might be up there though....
 

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This is just about as subjective as a conversation can be. For the record I disagree, but I can't tell u that what u think is great production isn't great.

To me just some of the people that have consistently been on better production than Nas are Jay, Big, Mase, Fab, Ross, Drake, Beans, Kanye, just about everyone from prime Rocafella, Snoop, Dre, these are just some that I can think of off the top, there's plenty more that it's very debateable to me. With that said, to me, it's not even a question if Nas is even in the conversation of best overall production over the course of his career. I think that just speaks to how talented he really is though, most rappers survive off of great production first and foremost, Nas on the other hand is one of the GOATs in spite of his production. Not saying his beats have been bad, but they haven't carried him like so many other rappers.
 
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The average is more important than total beats. Generally they've been poor more often than not.

Ghost has better beats
Cube has better beats
DJ Quik has better beats
Redman has better beats
Common has better beats
HOV has better beats
Big Boo has better beats
DJ Mustard has better beats
 

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low key fat joe an rozay are somewhere in the top 5....nas aint

:mjlol: cmon breh.

This is just about as subjective as a conversation can be. For the record I disagree, but I can't tell u that what u think is great production isn't great.

To me just some of the people that have consistently been on better production than Nas are Jay, Big, Mase, Fab, Ross, Drake, Beans, Kanye, just about everyone from prime Rocafella, Snoop, Dre, these are just some that I can think of off the top, there's plenty more that it's very debateable to me. With that said, to me, it's not even a question if Nas is even in the conversation of best overall production over the course of his career. I think that just speaks to how talented he really is though, most rappers survive off of great production first and foremost, Nas on the other hand is one of the GOATs in spite of his production. Not saying his beats have been bad, but they haven't carried him like so many other rappers.

I couldn't disagree more. Fab? everyone from Rocafella? Ross? :laff:

If I start listing how many dope beats Nas has rhymed on, it'll take a minute.
 
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